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Why don't people want e-liquid labels changed?
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I have the drunk gene to the power of 1000, so it all tasted ok to me.
That's why I had to quit it, it tasted TOO good! 
Andria
Yep how they discovered the bitter gene was trying to figure out how some people become alcoholics and some did not. They stumbled across the bitter gene. You can have it in a couple of different degrees the strongest degree makes alc taste horrible. None of it and you do not taste alcohol. Things that taste bitter as hell to me just taste sour to my wife. Artificial sweeteners are absolutely horrible to me.I have the drunk gene to the power of 1000, so it all tasted ok to me.
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I am technically a Supertaster. Google it.
Call me shallow but I like cool looking things. I enjoy a good label and don't want to trade that for plain packaging with a number and a color code to bow down to ANTZ who kick you again after you lick their jackboots anyway...
there are dozens of eliquid companies that have graphics, and text, and lists of ingredients on their labels. If an individual store owner chooses not to use graphics on store-mixed liquids, I guess it's their choice? I'd hope they'd at least list the ingredients and nic concentration, tho.
And to cover their own butts in case of an issue with their juice a batch # and a matching sample of the same batch locked away somewhere.
there are many vendors that sell unflavored nicotine base as well as flavorings and PG/VG. (up above, forum suppliers) A trend I've noticed is companies that are selling flavored eliquids, zero nic - you add your own nic.
They have this at the shop I go to but they add the nicotine for you there if you ask them to.
Leave my hydrogenated cheese products out of this pleaseAnd yet Chester Cheetah is still out there flogging that food-like substance, "Cheetos".Which kids snarf down by the truckload... hey Ms Obama, let's get Chester Cheetah to run some laps!
Andria
It's actually not oversimplified. Many people fall into those three categories. Some vapers think kids need to be "protected" from vaping, and that thought extends to sale and marketing. Some vapers think we need to make some concessions, so that they don't take everything away. Some vapers don't want to make any concessions. Of course there are many that don't fit squarely into any of those categories as well, or feel one way about one topic, but another way about a different topic.
All advertisements DO NOT target the whole population. They may be accessible to the whole population, but that is different than targeting. These labels are not even necessarily accessible to the entire population, I've only ever seen BT tv commercials, kids don't read magazines meant for adults.
As for selling plain liquid and flavoring separately, why? What's the point? Do you think they would care less if the cartoon character was on a bottle of flavoring meant for e-liquid as opposed to the liquid itself? It's also much harder to justify a profit margin on a bottle of flavoring, it's already a mainly low profit high volume business. Some people also don't want to mix their own liquid, even if it's just pouring one bottle into another. Many older people detest Child Resistant Packaging, it's hard for arthritic hands to open them.
Protecting the children from a product that A) isn't really harmful, and B) isn't being legally sold to them anyways, is a waste of effort and a sham.
I'm a supertaster of a different type... my sense of taste seems to be fairly normal, mostly... but my sense of smell could shame a bloodhound. Or at least a beagle.
I had to stop drinking American tea, as hot tea... at very best, it has no aroma at all... or it smells like sawdust -- the only kind of hot tea I can drink is either Twinings English Breakfast, or Twinings Earl Grey. For iced tea, American tea is fine, there's no steam to carry aroma. My olfactory sense was this way when I smoked 3 pks a day -- now, just leaving the house is a real adventure, and often, not in a good way at all. And I've always found coffee disappointing; my nose promises a rich and yummy taste... and then it mostly just tastes bitter.One weird thing with my tastebuds, though... I positively LOVE those Ensure milkshakes... the first time I opened a bottle of B Complex vitamins, I understood that what I had found so yummy in those milkshakes were the B vitamins. Weird, isn't it, that one of the B vitamins is nicotinic acid, a/k/a niacin.
And I've loved broccoli since I was old enough to throw a fit in the grocery store for mommy to buy me "trees". But keep anything sour strictly away from me, I want no part of it. The only thing lemons are good for is mixing with garlic and butter to put on salmon.
Andria
Leave my hydrogenated cheese products out of this please
I'm a sucker for Chester... though I prefer the Puffs; my teeth aren't up to the crunchy ones anymore. Dagnabbit.
Andria
While I agree with you on most everything you said I have to disagree with the twenty years ago part.
It was around then or earlier when camel was forced to remove camel joe and the other cartoon camels from all their merch for the same reasons they are using with vaping now and it when through with flying colors. And it cost them millions something that most vape companies couldnt survive.
It was around then or earlier when camel was forced to remove camel joe and the other cartoon camels from all their merch for the same reasons they are using with vaping now and it when through with flying colors. And it cost them millions something that most vape companies couldnt survive.
It cost them millions fighting it or changing labels or lost sales?
I always thought Joe Camel was sorta strange....
Oh my... cartoons on ejuice? Well, who was the idiot that allowed them to buy a cartoon labeled nic juice? This country is becoming too nanyish. There are plenty of influences out there, not just on ecigs, but in general life.
Guns in video games.... but they don't impose a tax on video games that are violent. I guess they want to endorse kids with guns.
Illegal drugs... they don't have cartoons on them, but children still manage to get them..wow.. someone should tax them to keep them away from children....?
There's a cartoon bubble on the scrubbing bubbles line of cleaners.. they even named the bubbles... I guess they must be wanting the children to play with them....
Snoop dog appearing in a children's cartoon... Gee, If they idolize him in a cartoon, they are supporting what he sings about.. to kids.
McDonalds luring kids with toys... I guess replacing the french fries in a happy meal totally makes up for the fat and cholesterol in the hamburger.
There are just soo many things people could be fighting about when it comes to labels and children. Instead of putting out a million "flash fires" they perceive as dangerous, why not go straight to the source... education. Teach the children, and try to teach some common sense. Cartoon characters on Ejuice bottles should be low on anyones priority. Put a warning label and a childproof cap and there should be nothing wrong. I liked Yosemite Sam when I was growing up. I would get a kick seeing a Yosemite Sam ejuice bottle saying "Fracking Rackin good juice". If a child sees it, and is able to open it, then I fault the parent. I've been in that situation before, and I have nobody to blame but myself.
Guns in video games.... but they don't impose a tax on video games that are violent. I guess they want to endorse kids with guns.
Illegal drugs... they don't have cartoons on them, but children still manage to get them..wow.. someone should tax them to keep them away from children....?
There's a cartoon bubble on the scrubbing bubbles line of cleaners.. they even named the bubbles... I guess they must be wanting the children to play with them....
Snoop dog appearing in a children's cartoon... Gee, If they idolize him in a cartoon, they are supporting what he sings about.. to kids.
McDonalds luring kids with toys... I guess replacing the french fries in a happy meal totally makes up for the fat and cholesterol in the hamburger.
There are just soo many things people could be fighting about when it comes to labels and children. Instead of putting out a million "flash fires" they perceive as dangerous, why not go straight to the source... education. Teach the children, and try to teach some common sense. Cartoon characters on Ejuice bottles should be low on anyones priority. Put a warning label and a childproof cap and there should be nothing wrong. I liked Yosemite Sam when I was growing up. I would get a kick seeing a Yosemite Sam ejuice bottle saying "Fracking Rackin good juice". If a child sees it, and is able to open it, then I fault the parent. I've been in that situation before, and I have nobody to blame but myself.
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