Why don't people want e-liquid labels changed?
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I agree but most do not. You chose to have em it is your responsibility to raise em not mine.
That's only part of it though. One reason education in America sucks so much is because so many don't even come close to being invested in it. If you had to write out a check for your child's education every month or at the end of every year you would concern yourself much more with it. You would be much more on top of things if the quality lacked. You could go to another school and the school that failed to meet expectations would go out of business and be replaced by one with the possibility of living up to expectations. And you would, because you had to work to earn the money to write the check for the education.
As it is now people think it's somehow free and don't think much about it unless they send their children to a private school (in which case they're paying twice)
I agree but most do not. You chose to have em it is your responsibility to raise em not mine.
Virtually no one pays the full cost of their child's education in the public school system. And even where there are vouchers it is still socialized. On vouchers all you should get is what you paid in school taxes, not what someone else paid it too.
Here is the crux of the argument for me for this and other similar topics:
vaping<>Smoking
The similarities between the two are mostly aesthetic. They "look" similar. Other than that, for both you inhale something and often both contain nicotine, though not always.
Current research suggests that vaping is 95-99% less harmful than smoking, which puts it on par with breathing city air, or drinking tap water, in terms of relative risk.
Research should be ongoing, but we have more already than many people realize, and without market impetus research will be stunted.
If vaping is not the same as smoking, why should the same rules and regulations apply?
vaping<>Smoking
The similarities between the two are mostly aesthetic. They "look" similar. Other than that, for both you inhale something and often both contain nicotine, though not always.
Current research suggests that vaping is 95-99% less harmful than smoking, which puts it on par with breathing city air, or drinking tap water, in terms of relative risk.
Research should be ongoing, but we have more already than many people realize, and without market impetus research will be stunted.
If vaping is not the same as smoking, why should the same rules and regulations apply?
Can I borrow your mass-spectrometer to make sure the juices I get are set to the standards you think they are?we do not need standards.
we already have them.
if some one making juice is not using food grade or higher
ingredients they are by definition not making e-juice.
all the ingredients, the PG,VG,flavorings and nic base
are already made to FDA specifications.
how do you make a specification for something
made with ingredients that are already made to
such a stringent standard in the first place?
just be careful and get the nic % correct and
the worst possible out come is bad tasting juice.
the very nature of the ingredients in e-juice and
the utter simplicity of the manufacturing process
make it incredibly easy and safe to make.
really there is no magic,mystery or special culinary
expertise needed to make it.
there are already all the necessary production
protections existing in law right now to insure
a safe reliable product. making a cake is more complicated
and dangerous.
regulation standards are an ANTZ trap.
regards
mike
whether short attention span or illiteracy, either way I blame this on that school system we were just talking about.
The ads and labels in question are a tiny part of the marketplace, .1% at most. I don't see how a tiny label for an unadvertised brand, available mainly only in vape shops, promotes sales to children. They could have some chance of encouraging ingestion if found. However, highly flavored liquids are unlikely to be ingested in quantity due to strong flavoring, and concentrated nicotine is not colorfully labelled.
Watched this last night, appalling. If I knew nothing about the subject, I'd even say they sounded reasonable and like they care about people. Everyone needs to watch a congressional hearing about something they actually know about.
I won't try to respond to everything in the video, but a few quickies:
1. I bet Rockefeller is being paid more than the Blu and NJoy reps at the hearing, whom he personally insulted for doing anything for money.
2. There are at least 100 comments about things increasing. So what, everything about vaping is increasing right now. No context is made in any of these cases, for example how many poison center calls were actually serious, how many where little Johny touched a drop of e-juice and parents called to ask questions, much less the number of calls for other products.
You're right, anything can be turned into ammo by these people because they have no morals. I have mixed feelings about reacting to it any way, however.
Watched this last night, appalling. If I knew nothing about the subject, I'd even say they sounded reasonable and like they care about people. Everyone needs to watch a congressional hearing about something they actually know about.
I won't try to respond to everything in the video, but a few quickies:
1. I bet Rockefeller is being paid more than the Blu and NJoy reps at the hearing, whom he personally insulted for doing anything for money.
2. There are at least 100 comments about things increasing. So what, everything about vaping is increasing right now. No context is made in any of these cases, for example how many poison center calls were actually serious, how many where little Johny touched a drop of e-juice and parents called to ask questions, much less the number of calls for other products.
You're right, anything can be turned into ammo by these people because they have no morals. I have mixed feelings about reacting to it any way, however.
It's not about what's on the bottle of juice or even what's in the bottle of juice. It's about who has control over those things: the consumers, or the government. One wants quality juice, and the other simply wants the control so that it can determine later how best to financially benefit from it.
Whether an ....... or just a dbag, I blame this on society in general
A society is made up of people. So it is "our" fault. But! It just can't be MY fault!
You humans astound me.
You humans astound me.
What I have found quite interesting through my travels, is that people everywhere are so similar, yet societies can be so different...
Humans are mostly pack animals and readily adapt to following those in control of their particular little corner of the universe.
This is why I like Prague society so much. Everyone does what they want, within reason. There is virtually no violent crime and pretty much all vices are allowed or overlooked. People dictate the norms of the society, rather than a government...
Sounds like a nice place. Most of the USA is full of humans wanting no other humans to do what they themselves do not want to do. And wanting to pass legislation enforcing this. A country full of legislative morality. Kind of like Sharia law but a different view.
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