Why E-Cigarette has a stigma....

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V4ping20four7

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If we try to distance ourselves from cigarettes and establish our own little vaping beachhead, how will future smokers ever discover vaping on their own?

Cigalikes exist for a reason. Smokers often want something that looks, feels, and "tastes" like a real cigarette. Trying to make it into something it isn't may be harming smokers who would potentially look into vaping. We cannot make this an exclusive club. We need to help other smokers quit smoking.

A smoker may quit smoking because they found something that looks like a cigarette and is called an "e-cig". It's just something they may need to jump the hurdle.

To make vaping an exclusive club with "defined" terms only shuts out a lot of people who could otherwise be saved from smoking.

I can agree with the some people need something that looks like a cig to make the switch. I myself switched to vaping 3 years six months ago with them but moved to Lava Tubes, egos, Vamos, Provari, and other custom PV's, but my wife still smokes. I didn't push the issue about switching to vaping to her, as I think one has to come to that conclusion themselves. Lately though, I have been kind of bugging her to try it and switch, her usual comment is, "I don't want to smoke one of those things, it looks nothing like a cigarette and people will think I am smoking crack or something, if I am going to smoke those it will have to at least look like a cigarette." So yeah, the e-cig term is warranted when it comes to those who may need it to convert.
 

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You can call them rainbow and lollipop machines and there will still be a negative connotation. The reason is that it looks like smoking, and that has become more offensive than mainlining ...... in today's society. Look, we already have state governments banning e-cig use in public places, just like cigarettes. The reason for government forced smoking bans was because of a bogus EPA report that said second hand smoke was dangerous. Nevermind the fact that the exposure limits required to create true danger are nearly impossible to obtain. Smoking was a nuisance and non-smokers used that report to force businesses to take away the choice of being an establishment that allows smoking. Second hand vape is harmless. It is almost odorless, but we now live in a country where it is acceptable for the government to step in and ban things that may look offensive. Non-smokers see Deacon Frost walking down the beach with his Blu cig and they are disgusted. They don't realize that this is an incredibly effective smoking cessation tool. They think this is a smoker's way of juking their smoking ban system.
 

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I've had people ask me what my device is (I do not use cigalikes any longer). Some ask me if it's a water pipe because they know I used to smoke. As soon as I say e-cigarette, they understand. I live in a blue collar town and saying PV or anything but e-cigarette, they simply don't understand what the device is. I don't like to say e-cigarette, but it is commonplace in our language now. Because of it's very negative stigma, I would love to get rid of the "cigarette" name out of our devices. I expect it will be an uphill battle for the general public to recognize a name other than e-cigarette. That doesn't mean that we simply should give up.

Since I don't use stick PV's and never want to due to the impression they give (and their performance), when someone asks me what it is, I ues the term vaporizer and about half the time get a blank look which is understandable. I will tell them it is an advanced e-cig so the can understand but always state that those of us who vape prefer the term vaporizer or personal vaporizer since we no longer smoke.
 

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I tell people it's a personal vaporizer and I'm a glorified humidifier. Seems to work out well. No one's given me much hassle except some dumb girl checking us in at Vegas. (I say dumb, not only because she wouldn't let me vape, but also because she charged us $165 for a room that was already payed for. Thank goodness my boyfriend checks his credit card account every night).

Granted it WAS a non-smoking hotel but after I walked away from her, I vaped around the hotel and not ONE person said a peep. A few people asked me about my Provari and they already knew it wasn't a cigarette (cause it kinda doesn't look like one). Mostly, they were curious if I've quit and if it really helps me. 2 people walked away telling me they were gonna pick up a ego starter kit for a loved one. :)
 

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I also carry around business cards for my B&M store. Spreading the good news on campus...

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Occasionally it disappears, but I always replace it. I hope it's potential vapers, and not someone taking it down...
 

DC2

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I also carry around business cards for my B&M store. Spreading the good news on campus...

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Occasionally it disappears, but I always replace it. I hope it's potential vapers, and not someone taking it down...
That's a great idea!

I might have to start checking out the laundromats in the area.
They usually seem to have a lot of smokers, and I'm pretty sure they usually have bulletin boards.
 

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I agree that we need to separate ourselves from anything and everything "cigarette". The further the better. We will never train the world to use PV instead of ecig if we don't train ourselves first. I think the place to start would be right here with ourselves. This forum in a huge driving force and a centrail hub for the PV community. If this site would get behind the "movement" it would have a chance. If it won't then the phrase will certainly stick forever. Change the name to P-V-Forum.com. Censor the words "cig" and "cigarette" just like curse words. Stick a yellow notice at the top of every page for a few months. Something explaining what is trying to be accomplished. If this forum got behind the movement to separate ourselves from cigarettes it would have a fighting chance. We don't need the word to have a conversation, we use analog most of the time anyways.
That sounds like a pretty well thought out plan, but there are a few things I wonder about...

1) I would guess that at least 80% of us found our way here by typing "electronic cigarette" into the Google machine.
2) I have no idea what impact a forum name change would do to all the hard work ECF has done to make sure they are at the top of a Google search.
 

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I think the card idea is great. I was thinking along those lines, that if we could summarize Vaporizers to a degree where it would be easy to understand and fit on a card then we could hand it out with a brief verbal summary of our own. Not in a rude way or anything, but if people are asking, at least some of them may be at least curious and want to know more.

Maybe we could come up with that summary here, even put this site on the card as an additional reference tool and have some way where we could all go and print our own uniform copies.
 

DC2

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I think the card idea is great. I was thinking along those lines, that if we could summarize Vaporizers to a degree where it would be easy to understand and fit on a card then we could hand it out with a brief verbal summary of our own. Not in a rude way or anything, but if people are asking, at least some of them may be at least curious and want to know more.

Maybe we could come up with that summary here, even put this site on the card as an additional reference tool and have some way where we could all go and print our own uniform copies.
Both ECF and CASAA have such cards available, as well as many (if not most) vendors.

CASAA E-cigarette Information Cards
ECF Generic Business Cards (FREE), ECF Store

I think the ECF cards have information on the back, but that link does not give any indication what might be on the back.
I have some of their cards and they do have information on the back, but I got them a long time ago so I don't know if they are current.
 

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Both ECF and CASAA have such cards available, as well as many (if not most) vendors.

CASAA E-cigarette Information Cards
ECF Generic Business Cards (FREE), ECF Store

I think the ECF cards have information on the back, but that link does not give any indication what might be on the back.
I have some of their cards and they do have information on the back, but I got them a long time ago so I don't know if they are current.

Thank you for the reminder. I just placed an order for both. Not everyone will research all the questions they have, but it helps.
 

Gemini76

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When I started vaping, this same conversation was all over ECF. I don't claim to be the originator of the term, but thought it was hilarious..........Personal Electronic Nicotine Inhalation System.......consider the acronym. I laughed for days and still do. I'm giggling right now!! HeeHee.

Thats hilarious! Hopefully it's not the one that I remember...haha


DC2, thank you for posting the links.
 
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