Why eliquid is so expensive?

[Mousey]

wow..in about an hour this thread got its own life

So, which if you smart a*ses would pay 50% commission if I bring you clients?

You really are pushing this commision thing aren't you
You're probably looking at more of a 15% commision tops and that'd be from a seriously generous business and probably only then if you drive some serious business. Sales is a ch man

 

[SabrinaLHS8]

my favorite juice costs my $16 for a 30ml bottle, lasts about 14 days. If i were to buy cigarettes that would cost me $74.90. Ill even factor in my 2 replacement coils so it costs me about $18.25 and I get a bottle to use later in my DIY. Then i take that $56.65 and buy more juice or battery's or coils.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Once you get all your gear purchased (and seldom has to be replaced) the only cost you have to incur is for your juice and for coils. Even at $2 per coil, lets say $8 a month for those, and $10 for juice, you're still at less than or close to $20 per month. Anything in addition to that is called a hobby, and not essential.

The question is why do the bottles of juice cost so much, not how cheaply can juice be made.

You can go to Walmart and buy a bottle of VG and vape away for $3 or something like that for one heck of a long time.

When you buy pre-made juice, you in a way become that persons employer. If you don't want to hire a professional to work for you that's your choice, don't expect professional results though when you pay nothing to get a job done.

If your great at mixing juice, you can save some money, if not, you'll waste a bit of money trying to get something worth vaping.

Maurice

 

[Criticalmass]

And what's it cost to bring A gallon of gas to market? Juat sayin'

Most of the boutique vendors will go out of business when regulations hit. A lot of people see this as a short term business opportunity and are not in it for the long haul. So they jack up prices to what they think the current market will bear.

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[eliquidmonster]

You really are pushing this commision thing aren't you
You're probably looking at more of a 15% commision tops and that'd be from a seriously generous business and probably only then if you drive some serious business. Sales is a ch man


Sales is the most important thing nowadays..for everything there is china 50% is a lot? Serious business? Hmm..without me they have what they have, lets call it X...with me they can have X+Y. Y can be 1 or 1000000 and it is still more than X

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

And what's it cost to bring A gallon of gas to market? Juat sayin'

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More than we pay for it at the pump. Subsidiaries pay for the balance, and stations make pennies on the gallon. That's why gas stations aren't just gas stations anymore.

Maurice

 

[NealBJr]

Why is eliquid so expensive, sometimes reaching $10 per bottle when cost to produce is often less than $1?

labor + profit - lack of sales. Remember, if you sold eliquid for double what it takes to make it, you'd be loosing money due to high labor and lack of sales. Unless you run an internet site, then you need to have the overhead of the isp + web provider.. if you owned a physical shop, there's the rent, electricity, other bills... + you need to pay for labor unless you're doing it yourself. If you payed someone $10/hour to make E-liquid, + rent utilities + marketing/website, that $1 bottle would take about $10 just to keep even. And remember, there are still a lot fewer vapers out there than smokers... the client base isn't ginormous, but it's getting there.

 

[Momotaro]

As an alternative to cigarettes, I would say the price is reasonable.

 

[30+Years]

Y can be 1 or 1000000 and it is still more than X

Not if it cost more to sevice the additional business that Y brings in.

Increased sales means increased overhead.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

You really are pushing this commision thing aren't you
You're probably looking at more of a 15% commision tops and that'd be from a seriously generous business and probably only then if you drive some serious business. Sales is a ch man


Sales is the most important thing nowadays..for everything there is china 50% is a lot? Serious business? Hmm..without me they have what they have, lets call it X...with me they can have X+Y. Y can be 1 or 1000000 and it is still more than X

If it takes me "$$$$$$$" to live I need to make that much in a 40+/- hour work week. Seeing as every person needs to do just exactly that in a fixed span of time, profit or income is highly dependant on how much product you can make/move in that time. Number of products ÷ '$$$$$$' needed = markup. Markup + Cost of product = Price to consumer. If the products sell, you are in business, if not you go out of business.

Maurice

 

[eliquidmonster]

You killed me! Its the other way around Economics 101? No?

 

[popwarhomie]

MBV has great prices IMO. But some of these companies are ridiculous!

 

[Criticalmass]

More than we pay for it at the pump. Subsidiaries pay for the balance, and stations make pennies on the gallon. That's why gas stations aren't just gas stations anymore.

Maurice

Let's add up the cost of both. 1 gallon of e-liquid vs. 1 gallon of fuel. We can use the UK pricing for fuel since I do not believe they subsidize.

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[jwoode]

You can lease retail space near my home for on average, $25.00 per square foot.
You can find cheaper and more expensive.. but in my area, that's the going rate.
I would guess that my local vape shop occupies about 1200 square foot.
They sell juice at about $7.50 per 10ml bottle.
They also sell a wide variety of mods and starter kits and seem fairly busy.
They have 2 to 3 hired staff and an owner working most every day.

Think about how much they need to sell to make rent, utilities, payroll, etc.

By the time I had accumulated about a quart of liquid I did not like.. I switched to DIY.
What I make probably costs a buck per 10ml.

 

[okey_dokey]

ejuice will just get higher when i start smoking a pack of marlboro's was 25 cents and we see how that went.the way its going now what state don't outlaw ecigs the government will. so enjoy vaping while you can.

 

[djsvapour]

It's an odd world.

People do like to go on about the value of something being what people are prepared to pay.

The thing with e-cigs is the far too many people can't even be bothered to look on the internet at the prices of things.
My opinion is that companies just take advantage where they can.

Take ink cartridges. Go to your local supermarket in the UK and you can buy your ink in a nice box from the company that made your printer. Come home, google it and find out you paid double. Do a few minutes research and you can buy non-oem for 20% of the price you've just paid

People just trust that their favourite store won't rip them off. Sadly it's not true. When one of the top supermarkets only offers one e-cig at £3.99 per cartomizer... I smell a rat. It's the same with some online stores... I think they'd rather sell 10ml for £5.99 and not get any repeat custom than sell it for £2.49.

The market is not saturated. Consumer awareness of price is not the control at the moment. They want to make millions and retire.
One company has already made £100 million selling 10ml for £39.99 by putting it in 10 x £3.99 cartomisers.

 

[eliquidmonster]

It's an odd world.

People do like to go on about the value of something being what people are prepared to pay.

The thing with e-cigs is the far too many people can't even be bothered to look on the internet at the prices of things.
My opinion is that companies just take advantage where they can.

Take ink cartridges. Go to your local supermarket in the UK and you can buy your ink in a nice box from the company that made your printer. Come home, google it and find out you paid double. Do a few minutes research and you can buy non-oem for 20% of the price you've just paid

People just trust that their favourite store won't rip them off. Sadly it's not true. When one of the top supermarkets only offers one e-cig at £3.99 per cartomizer... I smell a rat. It's the same with some online stores... I think they'd rather sell 10ml for £5.99 and not get any repeat custom than sell it for £2.49.

The market is not saturated. Consumer awareness of price is not the control at the moment. They want to make millions and retire.
One company has already made £100 million selling 10ml for £39.99 by putting it in 10 x £3.99 cartomisers.

I beg to differ! I have never come across a more "low cost" oriented consumer than the British consumer. They will scour the internet and shops looking for the cheapest thing. News that something is 1 penny less somewhere else spreads like wildfire. I think the 100 million company you refer to simply got in at the start when these things were not known at all and quickly build a brand that justifies the extra cost in the mind of the consumer. Try doing this now and you wont get anywhere....I know because I tried

 

[Razorback]

liquid is getting cheaper all the time . i can get it locally at 1.49 per 10 ml and 2 per 10ml depending which shop i go to. and its not bad. the price is falling all the time.

Definitely great news...

 

[edyle]

Why is eliquid so expensive, sometimes reaching $10 per bottle when cost to produce is often less than $1?

Because there is a big $demand$ from the big market of millions of smokers out there in the world would love to get an alternative or better to smoking cigarette smoke.


You gotta get into some diy if you want to get your eliquid at a reasonable price.

Do you really need fancy flavor? And if yes, do you really need it all the time.

I'm shifting towards buying 24mg 100PG liquid, and add 3 to 1 by volume of glycerin
That leaves me with 25/75 PG/VG at 6mg;

That's like a 75% discount; I suppose there is supposed to be a loss in flavor, but so far, it hasn't been an issue to me.

 

[djsvapour]

I think the 100 million company you refer to simply got in at the start when these things were not known at all and quickly build a brand that justifies the extra cost in the mind of the consumer. Try doing this now and you wont get anywhere....I know because I tried

So. 1) I feel bad for you. and
2) isn't there anything we can do?

I for one would like to see the end of both ....*y ink cartridges and flippin £3.99 cartomizers.

Do you know why people buy this utter carp? and... if your theory is correct, why are they still in business?

It grinds my gears... I wasted a fortune on one "brand" and their BS.

I am on your side b.t.w.