Why eliquid is so expensive?

[eliquidmonster]

So. 1) I feel bad for you. and
2) isn't there anything we can do?

I for one would like to see the end of both ....*y ink cartridges and flippin £3.99 cartomizers.

Do you know why people buy this utter carp? and... if your theory is correct, why are they still in business?

It grinds my gears... I wasted a fortune on one "brand" and their BS.

I am on your side b.t.w.

Thank you for your condolences Unfortunately there is nothing you can do for me. It was my mistake and I should have known better. I understand your anger and it has a name ...branding -> Its really powerful! And you wont see the end of it. They have positioned themselves at the gateway..most people will have to go through them before they acquire the knowledge and sense of safety that this quality can be acquired at a much cheaper price! Much like being a parent with your first kid..you go around buying the most expensive thing because you are afraid to go wrong! By your 2nd or 3rd child you have understood what is important and where it can be gotten for less with no loss of quality

P.S. By the way, I know the factory that produces the products for that 100 million company (cursed be its name) and it all fairness, they do make the best ecigs in china! So A+ for at least sourcing from the best place!

 

[JaxMike]

"They have positioned themselves at the gateway..most people will have to go through them before they acquire the knowledge and sense of safety that this quality can be acquired at a much cheaper price!"

"I know the factory that produces the products for that 100 million company (cursed be its name) and it all fairness, they do make the best ecigs in china! So A+ for at least sourcing from the best place! "

Can I buy stock in this company?

 

[eliquidmonster]

"They have positioned themselves at the gateway..most people will have to go through them before they acquire the knowledge and sense of safety that this quality can be acquired at a much cheaper price!"

"I know the factory that produces the products for that 100 million company (cursed be its name) and it all fairness, they do make the best ecigs in china! So A+ for at least sourcing from the best place! "

Can I buy stock in this company?

They dont quote on the exchange....yet

 

[edyle]

Why is restaurant food so expensive?


Action speaks louder than words; DoItYourself.

If you DoItYourself, there's a good chance:
Here's a question:
If you DoItYourself, and somebody you know likes your mix, and offers to buy from you, how much do you sell for?

 

[djsvapour]

P.S. By the way, I know the factory that produces the products for that 100 million company (cursed be its name) and it all fairness, they do make the best ecigs in china! So A+ for at least sourcing from the best place!

It's made (the ecig itself) by a good company... but it's a terrible product. I tested some of the atomizer resistances and they are way up there in cloud cuckoo land. The whole thing vapes at 4 watts on a fresh battery and drops after 50 puffs to some pretty low vapour performance.

Is this to get the fabled xxx puffs per cartomizer?

JaxMike - They are not on the stock market, but I wouldn't hold your breath on that one. If the UK/EU govt. decides to require a certain level of performance (nicotine delivery) from e-cigs, they will be the first brand in deep trouble.

Then again, all the rest of it (clearos and juice) will go down the drain too.

... and at that moment, the Tobacco company ecigs (Vype, Vuse) will step in and spend the required money to get approval.

The tobacco company ecigs are using 45mg liquid... that's going to be illegal in 2016, unless things change.

 

[Bunnykiller]

Lets see...

Materials:
Nic base 14,000$
VG/PG 7000$
Multiple flavorants 6000$
Bottles 2000 of each size 800$
Labels 10,000 ink for 10K labels 450$
Building rent 2000 sqr ft 1500$
Electricity 275$
Gas 95$
3 employees 7000$
Insurance 4400$
Advertising 1800$
Shipping matls 500$
and thats just the beginning

 

[DawnieH]

Cheaper than smokes for sure.

 

[Randy Lind]

Because its delicious and they know we will pay it

 

[edyle]

Once you get all your gear purchased (and seldom has to be replaced) the only cost you have to incur is for your juice and for coils. Even at $2 per coil, lets say $8 a month for those, and $10 for juice, you're still at less than or close to $20 per month. Anything in addition to that is called a hobby, and not essential.

Well I suppose if you plug in with a cord all the time like I would love to, then the only recurring expenditure could end up being liquid and coils.

In practice, people are going to be changing batteries.
How many batteries per year: well I suppose it's possible for somebody to get by purchasing 1 battery per year; then again, for some people it might be more like 10 batteries per year if they are using the small ego batteries.
I'd guesstimate something like $50-$200 per year on batteries; monthly that works out to something like: $5-$20 per month.

Coils: $2 per coil and 1 coil a week; 1 coil week is pretty optimistic; I can see some people running more like 20 coils per month until the figure their way out; on the other hand 1 carto a week sounds like what we hear from the carto users;
I'm going to budget the figure at $20 per month on coils/cartos

eliquid: more like $3 a day - works out to about $100 per month
Actually it's worth considering that at startup, there's the initial waste on liquids that the user doesn't like, then there's the stage where they find a liquid they can use in place of cigs; after that, over time, there's the gradual progression towards chain vaping, then double that when they start vaping on dual coils.

Meanwhile the startup cost just getting started with gear and looking for suitable replacement of cigarettes ends up costing anywhere from $100-$1000 during the first year.

 

[trentenmarschel]

Why is eliquid so expensive, sometimes reaching $10 per bottle when cost to produce is often less than $1?

also they have to pay for the bottles they ship them in and that is one large cost the liquid is cheap its all the other stuff that goes into the price the overhead labor shipping etc.

 

[Washburn158]

Its cheap compared to analogs

 

[Madtypist]

10$ a weeks sure beats 10$ a day!!!!

 

[stvan1]

Well over 30 some years ago I started making my own beer in my kitchen. Eventually I was making delicious beer from scratch, and lots of it. I could not drink it as fast as I was making it. Many styles, ales, lagers light, dark, it was great. If I would have kept at it I would probably be a millionaire today on small batch beers. Today they can sell for up to $7.oo a bottle maybe more in some places.
Point of story is, making vaping fluid is not rocket science, every ingredient is available, plentiful and relatively inexpensive. But it would be a labor of love and self achievement. Right now the market is flooded with vendors, and in my opinion the price is not prohibitive at all.
Actually very inexpensive at some places and in large quantities. Big breakthrough would be making it with 0% nicotine and have it taste/sell/feel good. Then you would have something.
I have been at this vaping business a very very short time and am learning daily, but it appears stuff may be more expensive in the UK??????? Just rambleing now..............

 

[Islandboy]

I get the designer juices, the cheap ones and I do the DIY thing. I can't recreate the taste of the designer stuff no matter how hard I try. I can out do some of the cheap stuff because well, it's cheap and they haven't done the work that the designer people have done. It's the age old adage....you get what you pay for.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Why is eliquid so expensive, sometimes reaching $10 per bottle when cost to produce is often less than $1?

Steel is $400 per ton or there about, and good knives tend to cost about that much. But why, I can cart to the dollar store and pick up a knife for a dollar. Except that dollar knife can't hold an edge, it is ugly, uncomfortable in the hand, and isn't even shaped right. That $400 knife, that's a different story, it holds an edge, is beautiful, and has the proper weight and shape to do its job comfortably all day long.

The old adage "you get what you pay for" holds true with e-juice, just as it does with knives, and many other things.

I mentioned earlier that one might determine price based on ones own needs for income, cost of producing the product, and how much product can be produced in a reasonable time. There are other factors too, for example if you produce say 1500 bottles a month and the product is selling out as fast as you can make it, you increase the price to reduce demand.

Maurice

 

[brunoearth]

I think the advertising takes most.

 

[WileECoyote]

Juice is cheap compared to another day without an analog which is priceless. DIY is the way to go for me. I'm like, oh, I am almost out of juice. Then I look up a recipe, toss it together and viola. I am one of those who spend way too much on the DIY initial investment and won't see a return for a bit, but like I said, priceless.

 

[ampanda]

Cost of doing business, especially for brick and mortar stores, they have to pay rent, utilities, taxes, payroll but it's totally worth it to be able to try what your vaping before you buy it.

 

[Shadav]

well you have the cost of
nic
pg
vg
flavor(s)
optional (alcohol)
containers
optional shipping
paypal/charge card (processing) fees

yes it's a lot cheaper to diy but to sell to others even at cost gets expensive
case in point I was trying to help someone out...I spent $50 to buy a gallon of pg and a gallon of vg, then $2/2oz bottle
so I calculated out how much it would be to send them a 2oz bottle of each pg and vg and well by that point it was going to be about $30 at cost....and that was just for a 2oz bottle of each for $20 more they could get a gallon of each like I did

 

[oneshot]

the cheapest you can find is from Mt baker ,,,, 15 ml for $4.99