Ironically, if people did follow the part in bold, there wouldn't be entire threads started with the clear intent to bash other people's choice in PV, and so there would be no need to ignore stupid threads.
Why is a Provari P3 even a viable choice.
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Ironically, if people did follow the part in bold, there wouldn't be entire threads started with the clear intent to bash other people's choice in PV, and so there would be no need to ignore stupid threads.
Yeah! What he said.OP ... have you seen those new colors Provape has come out with?
maybe one of those will make a Provari a little more viable for you
You don't need to be a patent attorney or a Philadelphia lawyer, just literate.
What does that have to do with anything?If there is a patent? It's already been granted.
They didn't patent an idea.
HHV is the only juice I use at the moment. If she hasn't been to the supplier forum she should stop by and say Hi.
You should read the patent. It's very clear, and lists every conceivable method of controlling wattage output. Just because provape's circuitry is laid out different, they are still using a method within the already granted to Evolv patent.
For those interested, here it is.......
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130104916
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130104916
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.
I am sure ProVape has already arranged to pay the licensing fees. Years ago I saw a break down on how much $ in licensing fees adds to an iPhone. There are lots of them, although Apple may have bought out the companies which had them by now, but the total came to something like $14/phone...
If Evolv hold such an Iron Clad Patent, why are there so Many "Clones" flooding into the Market?
The patent was just granted September 2 of this year. The clone chips have been out for many months.
It doesn't make a difference. PRC companies only look at patents when they steal someone else's work, because the information in the schematics helps them reverse engineer the product they are copying...
Next years most popular thread title will be..... Provape, Innokin, or Evolv DNA(?) mod. Which one should I buy?
Yup, I see there being three options by the end of next year. Provape, Innokin, or an Evolv chip mod. Innokin obviously understands what this patent means, seriously a Chinese company is licensing Evolv technology! I think there will be some serious cease and desist letters, and customs seizures in the coming year. No more Fasttech or etc for variable wattage mods. This may also be why Evolv has been slow releasing their upcoming board. They may want to shutdown the clones, before it is worth their while to clone their upcoming chip set. I just pray they do not sell out to BT.
Patent Pending can be Just as Binding as a Granted Patent.
And a Simple Engineering Change to a Chip Set Can/Could/Will effect a New Design
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BTW - Have you seen this Thread? It includes their Patent Number I think.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/notcigs/582364-vv-patent-issues-next-week.html
That's Kinda how the Game is Played.
Reverse Engineer. Make some Changes to Stay out of Court. Rock n' Roll.
CBP is going to inspect mail from China looking for unlicensed chips in mods?
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Possibly, depending on how it is approached. This patent was granted to cover ALL VW devices. Not sure how it will stand up to a thorough review, but that takes money on the challanger's part. The bigger win is the fact that any Vape shop can and most likely will receive notices of patent infringement of all non-evolv approved VW devices. Effectively shutting down the clone market for regulated devices. This is a BIG small business. Evolv has assured their will be an affordable product by partnering up with Innokin. Vape shops will probably comply because it means they will only have to carry a few product lines (cheaper), and avoids lawsuits that they most likely will lose.
By the way this can also be used to defend trademarks, but that costs more money, and is easier to evade. All the producer has to do is remove the offending mark, and then refer to it as a 1:1 clone (Whatever) style.
Overall, it depends on how big, and determined the major 3 companies will be in locking down the market in the future. Innokin, may have legal rights in China by licensing this technology to produce.
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35 U.S. Code § 271 - Infringement of patent | LII / Legal Information Institute
They don't have the resources. Perhaps if they were coming in by the shipping container full... Laws are meaningless if they can't be enforced...
Right, that is why Fasttech sells so many clones of legitimate products?
How about you do a search on clone and see what pops up on Fasttech?
So where are the Provari clones?
The P3 will do just fine it is marketed to ex-smokers that want a reliable quality vape.
It is hard to counterfeit reliability, customer service, durability and quality. The clone kids also think it is outdated and doesn't have enough power. ProVari are 'clone' proof...
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