Why is my provari telling me I have low battery @ 3.7v?

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sure! you can call it what ever your want! its still speed.. and Speed is distance over time.. it takes 1 volt to push 1 amp though 1 ohm

Yes Dave :)

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I'm not consuming a whole lot of power with my set-ups. I don't know anything about smart stuff, but I wonder if it's possible that when the ProVari checks the resistance of what's attached, the battery check reading would reflect the remaining charge if you continued to use the device with the resistance of what it just checked, if that makes sense.

This is what I think is going on. The ProVari needs to fire the battery in order to check the resistance of the coil and the remaining battery charge. So, the remaining battery charge will likely be related to the electronics' calculation of remaining battery life if used with that coil resistance.

Another item of note: The OP is not using the batteries recommended by the manufacturer. When they say they ONLY recommend AW IMR high drain batteries, they're saying that for a reason.

Efests are good batteries, but they're a step down from the AW IMR cells recommended by ProVape.
 

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You could do wicking with the different bases, battery cycles, and a lot of stuff outside of vaping... I just want to see more.

That will have to wait, this one is hard enough as it is. I'm trying to give very new vapers an overview of Ohm's Law that doesn't rely on equations.

When a person asks what VV/VW refers to, I think it's a cheat (and a disservice) to post V²/R=P and expect them to grasp it in one post, plus not bothering to tell them that for a great many vapers, you don't need to know anything beyond the basic concepts.
 

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When my provari will absolutely not fire anymore, as in the battery is completely dead and the provari just wont work....I put that battery in my Xtar vp1 and it shows 3.73v

The Xtar is a battery charger, not a voltmeter. All it's telling you is the terminal voltage while the battery is under charge.

Of course it's going to read higher than it did when it came out of the Prothingy. If you want to know the actual state of the battery use the Provari to measure it before you take it out, or use a multimeter. The charger is just telling you how the charge cycle is going.
 
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With V2.5 Provape recommends only IMR batteries that can take deep current loads. The cutoff is 3.5 amps. With a 1.5 ohm coil at 4.7 volts you are pushing 3.13 amps and 14.72 watts. You may be approaching the limit and Li-ion batts aren't supplying what you need for reliable operation. Try some IMR batts.

Provari cautions against using Li-ion and urges IMR (Lithium Manganese) only. That said, you should be getting an error code in the display if you are hitting a pre-programmed wall in the software.

I'd start a service ticket with Provape and see what they say as others have suggested..
 
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The Xtar is a battery charger, not a voltmeter. All it's telling you is the terminal voltage while the battery is under charge.

Of course it's going to read higher than it did when it came out of the Prothingy. If you want to know the actual state of the battery use the Provari to measure it before you take it out, or use a multimeter. The charger is just telling you had the charge cycle is going.

Bravo! I didn't catch he was using the Xtar to try and measure the remaining charge. Well done!
 

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Quote this to give me a science lesson..

It's not science as much as it is QC testing. AW IMR's are regarded as higher quality cells because they're tested more rigorously than others, and users have consistently found that AW batteries perform closer to spec than other brands.

That doesn't mean the Efest cells won't work in the ProVari. They obviously do. But the manufacturer doesn't recommend it and it's usually a good idea to follow their advice.
 

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I know this has to do with something like voltage sag or voltage drop, but I am not certain the reason or causes for it or even know what these terms mean.

I have a provari v2.5 and a RSST with a 1.5ohm coil

On a fresh battery charge, that my xtar vp1 tells me my battery is @ 4.18.

When i put the fresh battery in the provari with RSST, the battery reads 3.9 / 4.0 sometimes, but mostly 3.9.


When my provari will absolutely not fire anymore, as in the battery is completely dead and the provari just wont work....I put that battery in my Xtar vp1 and it shows 3.73v

Isnt the battery termination of the provari like 3.2v?

If anyone could help me understand this that would be great. Im either guessing its my batteries ( efest 18500 1100mah v2) or my RSST.

When i was on carto tanks i never noticed these things.
I'm going to hazard a guess and say the problem isn't the ProVari or the RSST but your batteries.
I haven't done any testing other than what I can discern when I use either AW IMR or Efest.
As it stands now, I no longer use Efest because the performance is....for lack of a better word.....iffy.

The Efest batteries ( mine anyway ) tend to need recharging almost every 2 hrs whereas the AWIMR's every 5-6 hrs.

Give me a min & I'll edit this post with what a fresh battery reads on my ProVari/RSST.


EDIT: Fresh battery (Efest & AWIMR) both read 4.2.

Doing this allowed me to remember why I don't use the RSST (I only put it on for this post).
My RSST is 1.6Ω per my Ohm checker (I always check my coils immediately after bldg) and Segelei Zmax but when on the ProVari I get the OP error.
 
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That will have to wait, this one is hard enough as it is. I'm trying to give very new vapers an overview of Ohm's Law that doesn't rely on equations.

When a person asks what VV/VW refers to, I think it's a cheat (and a disservice) to post V²/R=P and expect them to grasp it in one post, plus not bothering to tell them that for a great many vapers, you don't need to know anything beyond the basic concepts.

Well how about:

Variable voltage is one method, and uses voltage readings directly, which you need to change based on the ohms of the device. More ohms require more voltage.

Variable wattage is one method and when a wattage is selected it really changes the voltage, BUT it does not require changes by the user for different ohm devices.

Seems simple enough, without throwing Ohm's Law at them? What do you think?
 
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