Why isn't the Smoktech Woo getting talked about?

[John D in CT]

Sounds like a nice PV. 5 volts regulated, takes two 16340 batteries, and it's cheap.

Smoktech WOO starter kit-5V MOD

Welcome to Tasty Vapor

New! 5v Wow Mod Clouds of Vapor

The WOO..... - YouTube

Chris at Tasty Vapor told me about it today and I ordered one on the spot.

For $70 (on sale this week, reg. $75), you get:

•1 x 5v Regulated "Woo" Tube
•4 x 16340 batteries (3.7v, 650mAh, unprotected)
•4 x 2.0 ohm Ego Dual Coil Cartomizers, 5ml capacity, whistle tip
•1 TrustFire Multifunctional Charger
•1 x 10ml Tasty Vapor Sample of your choice (Reg. price $6.75)





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(Or 2x IMR 3.7v batteries, or 2x LiFePo4 3.0v CR123A Batteries)

 

[Rocketman]

you don't think stacking unprotected Li-ion cells in a mod with sticking button issues would be a problem?
Note that the "NEW WOW" model works with IMR cells.

 

[9ball_AJ]

Smok's broken engrish descriptions always crack me up:

This item is with 5V high volt battery,it is better to use with our dual coils cartomizers even the DCT,best tastes and largest vapors.Welcome to order it!

 

[John D in CT]

you don't think stacking unprotected Li-ion cells in a mod with sticking button issues would be a problem?
Note that the "NEW WOW" model works with IMR cells.

I'm going to find out first-hand whether or not it's a big deal. I don't think it is. I watched a reviewer demonstrate the sticking button issue, which not everyone has, and he showed that when it sticks, you give it a flick, and it goes off. It wasn't a big deal to him, and might not be to me, if mine even sticks at all. He never mentioned it coming back on all by itself.

Yes, it could get depressed accidentally and stay on. I won't be tossing into a bag or carrying it in my pocket until it proves its reliablity to me, or doesn't. And yes, I'm going to ditch the unprotected batteries if I can put protected ones in there.

 

[supervape]

I just PIF the Woo mod on another forum, I liked it while I had it until my Provari came... I do not think it keeps a 5v under load but it still fires the dual coils like a champ!

 

[Stubby]

As for the original question of why it is not getting talked about???.... it's simply because stacked batteries in general..... and especially in a tube..... being sold with cheap unprotected batteries..... and the whole thing made in china...... with who knows what in the way of protection circuits.... are going out of favor, and for good reason.

Hopefully this one will disappear and never be heard from again......

 

[rolygate]

So far two people have had eye injuries when their stacked-batt metal tube mod blew on them. Luckily none lost their sight but there will be a first, one day.

One of them was wearing glasses when his mod blew, he lost the sight in one eye and ran to the bathroom. After rinsing the eye and waiting, the sight came back. The eye hurt for a couple of days, it looks like the eye was bruised by the specs being rammed into the eye, due to the atomizer firing off into the eye. Very, very lucky guy.

The other had shrapnel fired into the surface of the eye when the top end of the mod blew off, it is still under investigation now but looks as if the sight has not been lost. Vision was affected due to foreign material embedded in the surface of the eye.

You need to be very careful when you buy a stacked-batt mod. Any batteries you replace the originals with could be counterfeits and there is every reason to believe they could be even lower quality: unprotected Li-ion cells, rejected after failing tests, stripped and re-covered with an AW or Tenergy label.

You could save $100 for sure - but is it worth it? At the very least you would want to drill several large holes along the length of the tube body to make sure it can't explode. 'Large' being the operative word - piddly little holes won't do anything.

 

[John D in CT]

As for the original question of why it is not getting talked about???.... it's simply because stacked batteries in general..... and especially in a tube..... being sold with cheap unprotected batteries..... and the whole thing made in china...... with who knows what in the way of protection circuits.... are going out of favor, and for good reason.

Hopefully this one will disappear and never be heard from again......

Are you really slamming it for being made in China? Seriously?

What are you using right now, and where was it made?

 

[Stubby]

Are you really slamming it for being made in China? Seriously?

What are you using right now, and where was it made?

Please read Rolygate's post above as he is much more up on this issue then I am.

Bottom line is using stacked unprotected batteries is about the most dangerous thing that can be done with an APV. If you are going to use it make sure you check the voltage of the batteries with a multi-meter before and after you charge them, wether you are using unprotected or protected batteries (you do have a multi-meter I would hope. If not go out a buy one immediately as it is a fools errand using stacked batteries without one). Mark your batteries so you use the same set of pairs together all the time. Don't randomly mix and match batteries even if they are the same kind.

All this is done after you drill a few big holes in the device as suggested by Rolygate.

And about that sticking switch........

 

[Creniker]

Good advice right there. There are much safer 5v units are the market, that use much safer batteries. I would look into them.

 

[John D in CT]

Please read Rolygate's post above as he is much more up on this issue then I am.

Bottom line is using stacked unprotected batteries is about the most dangerous thing that can be done with an APV. If you are going to use it make sure you check the voltage of the batteries with a multi-meter before and after you charge them, wether you are using unprotected or protected batteries (you do have a multi-meter I would hope. If not go out a buy one immediately as it is a fools errand using stacked batteries without one). Mark your batteries so you use the same set of pairs together all the time. Don't randomly mix and match batteries even if they are the same kind.

All this is done after you drill a few big holes in the device as suggested by Rolygate.

And about that sticking switch........

Just to be clear:

I asked why the Woo isn't creating a lot of buzz, and I've received some very informative and logical reasons as to why it isn't.

Based on these issues - sticking button, stacked unprotected batteries - and a third issue that we haven't even talked about - one reviewer's experience with suddenly-draining batteries - I am not telling everyone I know to go out and buy one. That honor is reserved for the Smoktech e-Power 14650 or 18650, and if a step up to VV is desired, a ProVari V2.

I'm still very much looking forward to trying the Woo out when it arrives, as I've never powered an attachment at anything over 3.7 volts. Prior to today, when some e-Power 14650 kits that I ordered came in, that figure had been around 3.4 volts. I will do my best not to blow myself up in the process, having grown accustomed to my face, imperfect as it is. And yes, I have a digital multimeter.

What I was objecting to was what I considered to be "piling on" by slamming it for being made in China. Condemning a device for being made in China condemns the overwhelming majority of vaping devices available on the market, both good and not so good. You did not address that point in your response. You would be doing me a favor, and preserving your own intellectual honesty in the process, by indicating that you agree that is not in and of itself a compelling reason to think badly of the Smoktech Woo, and would have been best left out of the discussion.

 

[Rocketman]

must be talking about me

 

[WyattDerp]

The WOO..... - YouTube

Here's a review on it.

 

[Rocketman]

The WOO..... - YouTube

Here's a review on it.

WooTube YouTube review

 

[John D in CT]

must be talking about me

Actually I wasn't. It was Stubby who criticized it for being made in China.

The WOO..... - YouTube Here's a review on it.

I saw that video about 10 minutes after it was posted. It's one of the reasons I started this thread. Seems there might be something to this device if some bugs get worked out. I wouldn't be surprised if they're resolving the sticking button issue as we speak, and it also seems to me that batteries have been being "stacked" for a very long time, in a variety of applications, with few issues. Should they sell this device with unprotected batteries, or approve their use in it? Looks like a "no". Could it be a fine little PV when used with protected batteries and a redesigned switch? Good chance.

Of course, I'm not married to this thing, and I'll be looking at other constant higher voltage devices as well, but this one could still work out fine. Clouds of Vapor seems to have a pretty good reputation, and I don't think they're eager to kill anyone, so there remains the chance that some of you guys are exaggerating the dangers. But for anyone reading this, I'm not recommending this device, but am going to try it at my own risk. Sure, I'll drill some holes in the case, and see if protected batteries will fit in it.

 

[John D in CT]

WooTube YouTube review

YouTube WooTube review. Who knew? Woohoo!

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Hmm, why is that video dedicated to "JeffakaSlinger, October 27, 1985 - April 2, 2012"?

 

[WyattDerp]

I didn't see that in the video at all....the dedication.

 

[John D in CT]

I didn't see that in the video at all....the dedication.

It's just a little joke, implying that due to the possible perils of using stacked, unprotected batteries in a device with a sticking button issue, the filming of that video went something like "Well, hope you liked the review, this is Jeff saying 'so long' and as always, vape on" ...... (Cut) ...... KABLOOOOOOIE!!

I of course wish nothing but the best for Jeff, and hope he vapes until he's 102.

 

[WyattDerp]

I've talked to Jeff personally, he hopes he lives until 102 also. He states he himself would not make an unprotected stacked mod but does enjoy vaping on the Woo/Wow.

 

[newq]

What I was objecting to was what I considered to be "piling on" by slamming it for being made in China. Condemning a device for being made in China condemns the overwhelming majority of vaping devices available on the market, both good and not so good. You did not address that point in your response. You would be doing me a favor, and preserving your own intellectual honesty in the process, by indicating that you agree that is not in and of itself a compelling reason to think badly of the Smoktech Woo, and would have been best left out of the discussion.

I am sorry that you feel slighted because the item was made in China, but in many many cases poorly made items come out of china because they are producing a feature packed device with poor quality and the problem is there is little concern for what heppens with the device once it leaves their warehouse.

I like everyone else in this thread love to save money. I dont necessarily boycott products because of where they come from. I do however agree to slamming a product for being unsafe. It is a moral responsibility to ward everyone away from a product that has serious reason for concern. If it were made in the US it would be just as demonized.

I think you are taking the issue of origin far more serious than the fact that the mod is unsafe buddy. I own many mods. Some cheap, some exspensive. Some I believe to be inferior in many ways and yes several of them are from china. Heck I wouldnt be surprised if all of them but 1 are made in china. At that I wonder if the electronics in the one that isnt made in china is from china.

Bottom line the device has grown a name for button sticking and has stacked batteries. The mod is dangerous. No matter the country of origin, it is dangerous and thus has not grown appeal because of it's potential to fail catastrophically.