Why vape at 100w

[KODIAK (TM)]

7 watts max for me. 2.2 ohms

Do some of you high-wattage guys know how much coal it takes to keep your PV's going?

 

[realsis]

get yourself some heavier gauge wire to play around at higher wattage. pick up some 26 and 24 gauge to start with, assuming you already have some 28 already or maybe play with some twisted wires. most guys who run high watts are running heavier twisted wires or at least a heavy gauge... when you get a build that takes a really long time t heat up at the lower wattages, that will be the kind of build that will shine at higher power but again, also depends on the device and the wicking, unless your dripping your going to find 50 watts very hard to not burn, trying to do this with a tank will be more frustrating than good... most will say they can't understand how you can go that high but that's because there trying to do it on a setup that's not built for this

Thank you and great suggestions, I'm going to do some twists and see what I can come up with. I've practiced a few of these already so I know exactly what your talking about. I also agree completely with your last statements. If your trying to bump up wattage on a device not built to go that high, your not going to succeed. But I personally like a higher wattage warmer vape. I will be practicing on some build for my dripper and see how it fares. Thank you.

 

[ukeman]

also another thing not mentioned here but a big part of this is wicking also... you're going to have a really hard time trying to get a self feeding tank type setup up to and over 50 watts, the wicking is not going to keep up so you're going to get burnt taste of course... most higher wattage devices are going to be used by drippers because wicking is going to be able to keep up as long as you keep dripping, or a bottom feeder where you can replenish your wick on each hit if necessary, a vacuum tank setup is going to be almost impossible at these kinds of high power

good point!
so many folks use Kayfun types of atomizers and while they give a great vape, they are not capable of handling high watts due to wicking and air needs.
Although most high wattage applications will most benefit vapers who use RDA's with duals and big air holes and coils close to the juice source, and utilize sub .5 ohms (.1X to .3)
my favorite atomizers for years now are single coil with elevated air posts so the coil is sitting above the juice source and even at .6 to .7 ohms the wicking material has to be optimal for keeping the wick wet.
One of them has a top filler similar to the Spheroid (Prometey2) and I use a .7 ohms coil at about 3.9v =26w

I have yet to find a setup for .3 ohms that has as good flavor...

but I just love having the range i get from these; and its regulated so your vape is more consistent than a mechanical tube device.
In my experience with mech tubes the contacts and especially the switch always ends up needing maintenance, adjustments/fixes... PIA if you vape over 10ml of juice a day.

 

[dannyrl]

I vape at about 68 watts on my mech. I love me some giant clouds and ridiculous flavor! As long as your wicks are saturated enough, you shouldn't get a burnt taste. If you're vaping on anything but an RDA, it won't be able to supply enough liquid fast enough resulting in the burning of the wicks. I drip about 8-10 drops so make sure there's always liquid to be vaporized.

But I feel like most people that buy a device capable of 100W won't actually vape at 100W all the time. It's just "cool" or a novelty to say that your regulated device can reach 100W, something absolutely unheard of before.

If you think 100W is crazy, are actually videos of people pouring e-liquid into commercial fog machines and vaping at 400W. I hope they don't have nicotine in that juice lol

 

[TheJakeBailey]

Don't worry about it.

The comment period for Deeming Regulations will end on Friday, and it doesn't look like enough of you care.
So in no time at all the only PV you will be able to buy will be a Blu.

Wow, way to pass judgement. Who is the "enough of you" that you are speaking to. Did you just pick a random thread to drop that in?? Is it no longer acceptable to discuss a topic OTHER than the FDA?

 

[vapero]

I see a lot of threads like this pop up once in a while about someone not understanding how could someone use such high wattage, so let's use an analogy to make it clearer.

the watts (velocity) goes hand in hand with your atty (vehicle) and coils (engine)

if you are using a bicycle (clearo/33 gauge kanthal) you are going on an average of 15 mph (just for illustration I don't really know the speed of a bike) you can't get to 50 mph without loosing a lot of stability thus making it really dangerous.

now in a car (kayfun/APV) you could go up to 160mph on a nive freeway before yo begin to feel unstable. but if you go at the bike speed you will get really bored.

on a racing car (RDA/mech mod) you could go much beyond this point and work great.

It all boils down to airflow and wicking restrictions and preferences there is no better option than the others, just some setups shine in different wattages than the others

 

[djironic]

I like sub-ohm, high-wattage vaping because I like taking lots of short mouth puffs, and I like a big blast of dense vapor/flavor with each puff. Big surface area coils + high power = a cigar-like vape experience.

I always forget to warn cigarette smokers and clearo vapers about my vaping setup before offering it to them. They inevitably take a long, deep lung hit and end up coughing for five minutes, lol...

 

[wrice4]

I just got my ipv2 yesterday but the 100w ipv3 looks interesting. I might have to see what one costs and pick one up when they come out. Would be nice to have the ability to go up to 100w if I needed too, once I learn more about coils and how they work with higher wattage.

 

[Budkiss]

I think the best part of the iPV3 isnt JUST the 100 w ability but the dual batteries.

 

[p7willm]

There are a lot of reasons for higher wattage devices. Many people don't bat an eye at a mech with a .5 ohm coil. With a fresh battery that is over 35 watts. A 1.15 ohm coil, besides drawing close to venting amps, is over 115 watts. People may not agree with builds like that but I would be happier with people using a regulated mod with dual batteries that will offer a little safety over the tube.

On the iPVs the 50 watt does not buck and the 100, according to specs, will. So if you want your .9 ohm coil at 10 watts the 100 will do it and the 50 will not.

I am going for an SX350 over the DNA30, not for the additional watts but for the lower voltage. Plus I like only having one button.

 

[wrice4]

Is there anywhere that is already doing pre orders for the ipv3?

 

[Ryedan]

I'm curious about this. I just got my ipv2 and love it. It takes my .4-.5 sub ohm and really tastes great at about 35-40 watts. But above that starts to taste burnt. So my question is, why buy a 100w device, like the ipv3 that's coming out? Just to say you can? What rda or whatever would take 100w without tasting burnt?

Should I buy the 100w ipv3 if I have the ipv2? Lol would hate to get it and never use it at that high. Jw why make a 100w.

I think you got most of the technical side answered already wrice4 and now know you can easily build for higher power once you know how and that's why they are being made.

Weather you should do that or not is entirely up to you. My sweet spot and ADV is between 25 and 35 watts so for me a 30 watt device wouldn't cut it. I probably would never go above 50 watts regularly, but having two batteries on-board is something I would really like and more power to experiment with is cool.

 

[Ryedan]

I wonder why anyone would want to vape at 30 watts.

Im perfectly content at 8

I cant help but envisioning some of these guys wheeling around a furniture dolly with a couple of car batteries and a fog machine strapped to it.

I was also perfectly content at 8 watts until I tried 30 watts zapped. Now, the only way I'm going back to 8 watts is kicking and screaming

OTOH, I do understand that you are happy at 8 watts and dislike vaping at higher power levels. IMO there's nothing wrong with that. It's what works best for you and that's good with me

Vape on.

 

[eyerhere]

Well I don't own a regulated mod, and I am Not sure I ever want to. Why Would I Want a computer chip to tell me what I can and cannot do? 6 months ago I was happy with it clearo. When I bought my dripper I said I wasn't interested in clouds. now I love the sub ohm coil set ups. With the topper I use now I am happy at .5 ohm wich is around 35 wts. But I see in my nea future gettng a new dripper that well let me get down to .1 or lower. .1 comes out to right about 100 watts.
Oh yea that was a lie about not wanting a regulated mod (drama effect). I really want one of everything!!

 

[The Cloud Minder]

March 18th 2016, Dyrushyn produces the first KiloWatt Mechanical Mod.

 

[Ryedan]

March 18th 2016, Dyrushyn produces the first KiloWatt Mechanical Mod.

Now that would be a fog machine

 

[FatherTime]

Don't worry about it.

The comment period for Deeming Regulations will end on Friday, and it doesn't look like enough of you care.
So in no time at all the only PV you will be able to buy will be a Blu.

ok first of all enough of us care, there just aren really that many vapers that really know whats going on. people do not think of the devices discussed in this thread/forum or even think theres a forum for e cigs when they hear "electronic cigarette"...they think of blu. even though i have done all i can to keep e cigs free, i dont think it would make a difference if every vapehead did the same.

second of all, thats hilarious and i salute you.

and in response to OP - i thought i would be set with me dna 30 but i said "o what the hell" and bought an ipv2 and now i know i need 50 watts. i bet id say the same to 100w especially if the voltage limit is higher. i know many people like me who just want better. most things in life you are only satisfied with temporarily. things must evolve or improve or enhance for them to remain satisfying. you think id still be with my wife if she was the same as when she was 15? hope not

 

[Budkiss]

Is there anywhere that is already doing pre orders for the ipv3?

Not yet. Eciggity will soon and vapercompany will soon

 

[Shootist]

I'm curious about this. I just got my ipv2 and love it. It takes my .4-.5 sub ohm and really tastes great at about 35-40 watts. But above that starts to taste burnt. So my question is, why buy a 100w device, like the ipv3 that's coming out? Just to say you can? What rda or whatever would take 100w without tasting burnt?

Should I buy the 100w ipv3 if I have the ipv2? Lol would hate to get it and never use it at that high. Jw why make a 100w.

I just had to respond.

I see no point in any vape over 10 watts for the coils I use. That said if you sub ohm, which I don't and have no plans to do so, then just by the nature of the lower resistance of the coil the watts go UP.

I started vaping to get off cigarettes. Not to Blow Clouds, Not for the Flavor of the juice. It was pure and simple a way to stop smoking cigarettes. Although I originally bought a ton of gear, once I started looking for a better vape than the cig a likes I started with, I am not making this vaping thing a hobby. In fact I am about to give some of the stuff I bought away to a couple of people I help get started vaping. They just can seem to make the complete switch from cigs to vaping.

I'm completely happy with the vape I get from my Normal battery devices at the lower, normal IMHO, wattages I use.

These Sub Ohmers keep saying It Is A Different World. My world is just fine as it is.

 

[exnihilo]

"*Update @ 12:57AM EST 8/6: It has been brought to our attention that there was a Skype interview done between ECF forum member "Budkiss". After speaking to P4Y and following up on member "Budkiss", we were able to identify that he is a vendor who is trying to spread a rumor saying that our order was cancelled and that we will no longer receive units from P4Y. It is very sad that this vendor has stooped so low to try to have customers lose faith in us. Silver units will be going out tomorrow, we will provide picture proof of their arrival from P4Y. "

Boom! Watcha gotta say for yourself, budkiss?

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