Why Vapers are getting a BAD NAME.

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zoiDman

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And what business does our resident anti have asking those questions?
What "studies" will the answers go into? What purpose will they serve?

Beware of snakes in the grass. That is all I can say.

Did I touch a Never when I mentioned Addiction Anja?

Sorry. I wasn't Implying that You are one of those People who can't go 30 Minutes without a taking a Hit.
 

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Beware of snakes in the grass.
And beware of antis masquerading as vapers.

I have seen a few in my life.
One was quite funny, entering the comments section in each and every of the - few enough - positive articles about vaping in the media in my home country.
Claiming to be a vaper himself. And loudly warning against the oh-so-horrible dangers of vaping which - he went on to claim - had caused him all kinds of health problems, from ingrown toenails to a pimple on his hiney. Yeah, sure. :glare:

The methods of our resident anti fit the mold quite well.

Beware of snakes in the grass.
 
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wait.. what?

Are you suggesting that people can be more dependent on vaping than they were on smoking?

No. Just that individuals are just that - individuals. Just because I can go all day w/o vaping as a former 1.5 - 2 PAD smoker doesn't mean anything to anyone else.
 

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Beware of snakes in the grass.
And beware of antis masquerading as vapers.

I have seen a few in my life.
One was quite funny, entering the comments section in each and every of the - few enough - positive articles about vaping in the media in my home country.
Claiming to be a vaper himself. And loudly warning against the oh-so-horrible dangers of vaping which - he went on to claim - had caused him all kinds of health problems, from ingrown toenails to a pimple on his hiney. Yeah, sure. :glare:

The methods of our resident anti fits the mold quite well.

Beware of snakes in the grass.

Are you going into Another one of your Tin Foil Hat Rants again?

Where Everyone who Disagrees with your Fringe, Hardline Views is an Undercover ANTZ? And that Members who have Posted for 3 or 4 Years are actually Deep Covert Plant by BT?

I hope so.

Because it is Hysterical when you Do.

:lol:
 

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It really Doesn't matter if Nicotine is involved or Not.

The Plain and Simple Truth is that Many People can't get from the Cab to the Curb without taking a Hit of their PV. Some could call it more of a Pacifier than a PV.
Yeah, so?

Some people will be an hour late to work from going to Starbucks.

If you have an issue with someone who "can't get from the Cab to the Curb without taking a hit off their PV" then I'll give you an unlimited supply of guesses who has the problem. Hint - it starts with a "y" ends with a "u" and has an "o" in the middle. Doing that hurts no one. And if there are those out there who are "offended" by the sight, well maybe they need to grow some callouses. The easily offended make me uncomfortable, so I trump them! :D
 

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Well, well, watch our resident anti trying to establish a reputation as a nice, helpful, ordinary vaper.
Yes, that is quite hilarious. :D

Having posted in a vapers forum for 4 years... and the same FUD that is being posted now.. the same anti-vaping stance... that must have brought in a nice amount of money, right?

If I reply to that little questionnaire, will I receive a share of the proceeds?
 

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Yeah, so?

Some people will be an hour late to work from going to Starbucks.

If you have an issue with someone who "can't get from the Cab to the Curb without taking a hit off their PV" then I'll give you an unlimited supply of guesses who has the problem. Hint - it starts with a "y" ends with a "u" and has an "o" in the middle. Doing that hurts no one. And if there are those out there who are "offended" by the sight, well maybe they need to grow some callouses. The easily offended make me uncomfortable, so I trump them! :D

I don't have an Issue with someone who has to use an e-Cigarette 24-7.

But what I'm wondering is just How Much it effects someone's views on being able to Vape Everywhere verses someone who can go as Long as they did when they Smoked.
 

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Well, well, watch our resident anti trying to establish a reputation as a nice, helpful, ordinary vaper.
Yes, that is quite hilarious. :D

Having posted in a vapers forum for 4 years... and the same FUD that is being posted now.. the same anti-vaping stance... that must have brought in a nice amount of money, right?

If I reply to that little questionnaire, will I receive a share of the proceeds?

Funny you would use the Term FUD in a Post like you just made.

LOL
 

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I don't have an Issue with someone who has to use an e-Cigarette 24-7.

But what I'm wondering is just How Much it effects someone's views on being able to Vape Everywhere verses someone who can go as Long as they did when they Smoked.
Depends on what time period you're talking about historically.

If you're talking about the people who've been beaten in self-loathing in the past couple of decades, I say, "free my people!"

If you're talking about prior decades, I say, "finally, back to normal!"

You see, this whole "out of sight, out of mind" smoking mentality is a result of fairly recent control freaks.

Disclaimer: These opinions are solely my own, and as such are better and much more valid to me than yours, especially if you disagree. :D
 

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And how about my money, dear resident anti-vaper?

If I reply to that little questionnaire, will I receive a share of the proceeds?

Nothing is free. Except death. And even that costs your life.

So, how about my share of the proceeds?


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It's all a Big Plot Anja.

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Not Suggesting. Stating.

There have been Many Threads here on the ECF where people talk about a Greater Dependency to e-Cigarettes than to Analogs.

A Healthier Choice, No Question. But More Dependent for Many People.

How Long have you been Vaping? Do you Vape more times and spend More Time vaping than you when you Smoked?

I smoked 2 packs a day easy.. of menthol's.. a month ago.
I vape on average 5ml a day of 18mg.

I don't think I spend more time vaping.. but I couldn't swear to that.
 

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I smoked 2 packs a day easy.. of menthol's.. a month ago.
I vape on average 5ml a day of 18mg.

I don't think I spend more time vaping.. but I couldn't swear to that.

If you are Only a Month in, then I think All Bets are Off.

Do Whatever it takes to get at Least 3 Months behind you and Analogs. Many people fall back to Smoking within the First 3 Months.
 

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It really Doesn't matter if Nicotine is involved or Not.

The Plain and Simple Truth is that Many People can't get from the Cab to the Curb without taking a Hit of their PV. Some could call it more of a Pacifier than a PV.

So what? Who cares if I can't get to from the Cab to the Curb without a hit.....Big Deal....

Tom's an ...... every morning before he has his first cup of coffee and routinely goes to grab another cup. Jeannie is sitting in her cubicle munching down Godiva's like they're going out of style. Bob routinely chews on his pencils, Marty has his headphones on and can't last 5 minutes without having his Beats on, and when he answers you he acts like you're deaf because his headphones are still on. Barbara can't spend 5 minutes without checking Facebook. And Julie is texting everytime you see her even while eating lunch with her. All of these people are engaging in what could be considered "rude" or "addictive" behavior. And none of these people call any of the others out on it. It is "just what they do"

Yet I take a puff from my PV and the whole kit and kaboodle, Tom, Jeannie, Bob, Matry, Barbara and Julie look at me as if I just killed a puppy.

The anti-vaping crowd is against any movement towards "normalizing" vaping. It doesn't matter that more and more studies are pointing to it being a harmless behavior (especially to the "non-vaper"). It doesn't matter if I am using 0 mg nic juice or not.

My goal is to get vaping normalized. There is no scientific reason why it should not be normalized. I do not think that one should vape everywhere and in every situation. Decorum should be applied.

However, I DO know that if I treat vaping like smoking and ONLY vape in areas where I can smoke, then I be will constantly losing areas to vape due to the continued anti-smoking legislation that continues to roll along unchallenged. I am also re-enforcing the mistaken assumption amongst non smokers and non vapers that vaping is as equally hazardous as smoking.

And, judging by the responses that some people have put forth here, then my right to vape in my home are forfeit in San Rafael California, even though none of the criteria for that ban apply to me.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/23/san-rafael-smoking-ban_n_4326768.html

One last question for the "don't vape where you can't smoke" crowd here. What do you tell the vaper in San Rafael? That he can't vape in his home because of the smoking ban there? Seriously?!!!??? Or do you tell him it's time for a little bit of civil disobedience even though that might undermine your entire position....?
 
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<a totally off-topic question>

Ya know, there is a button on your screen that your voice transcription can probably activate:

POST NEW THREAD

Seriously, after 13,321 posts here, you really couldn't avoid totally disrupting the exchange here?

Inconsiderate or intentional...

Beyond rude dude
 
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Nice picture, dear resident anti.
I have a picture of your interest as well:

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So where is my share, please?

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Well said, p.opus. Well said indeed! :)

So what? Who cares if I can't get to from the Cab to the Curb without a hit.....Big Deal....

Tom's an ...... every morning before he has his first cup of coffee and routinely goes to grab another cup. Jeannie is sitting in her cubicle munching down Godiva's like they're going out of style. Bob routinely chews on his pencils, Marty has his headphones on and can't last 5 minutes without having his Beats on, and when he answers you he acts like you're deaf because his headphones are still on. Barbara can't spend 5 minutes without checking Facebook. And Julie is texting everytime you see her even while eating lunch with her. All of these people are engaging in what could be considered "rude" behavior. And none of these people call any of the others out on it. It is "just what they do"

Yet I take a puff from my PV and the whole kit and kaboodle, Tom, Jeannie, Bob, Matry, Barbara and Julie look at me as if I just killed a puppy.

The anti-vaping crowd is against any movement towards "normalizing" vaping. It doesn't matter that more and more studies are pointing to it being a harmless behavior (especially to the "non-vaper"). It doesn't matter if I am using 0 mg nic juice or not.

My goal is to get vaping normalized. There is no scientific reason why it should not be normalized. I do not think that one should vape everywhere and in every situation. Decorum should be applied.

However, I DO know that if I treat vaping like smoking and ONLY vape in areas where I can smoke, then I be will constantly losing areas to vape due to the continued anti-smoking legislation that continues to roll along unchallenged. I am also re-enforcing the mistaken assumption amongst non smokers and non vapers that vaping is as equally hazardous as smoking.

And, judging by the responses that some people have put forth here, then my right to vape in my home are forfeit in San Rafael California, even though none of the criteria for that ban apply to me.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/23/san-rafael-smoking-ban_n_4326768.html

One last question for the "don't vape where you can't smoke" crowd here. What do you tell the vaper in San Rafael? That he can't vape in his home because of the smoking ban there? Seriously?!!!??? Or do you tell him it's time for a little bit of civil disobedience even though that might undermine your entire position....?

Now don't hold your breath for a decent, understandable, non-twisted answer from our resident anti.
He will just change the subject, I expect :D
 
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I knew it - twisting away from the real question. :D

Now, does that earn extra pay?

Yooohooo - the question was:

One last question for the "don't vape where you can't smoke" crowd here. What do you tell the vaper in San Rafael? That he can't vape in his home because of the smoking ban there? Seriously?!!!??? Or do you tell him it's time for a little bit of civil disobedience even though that might undermine your entire position....?
 

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I knew it - twisting away from the real question. :D

Now, does that earn extra pay?

Yooohooo - the question was:


"One last question for the "don't vape where you can't smoke" crowd here. What do you tell the vaper in San Rafael? That he can't vape in his home because of the smoking ban there? Seriously?!!!??? Or do you tell him it's time for a little bit of civil disobedience even though that might undermine your entire position....? "

And how Exactly is this Going to be Enforced?

And BTW, are e-Cigarettes Included in this Ban?
 
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