I'd quote post #1086 for the third time in a row, but I think all following along are aware of what it says. Same type of post as about 15 other posts in this super long thread.
One side saying, "those vapers who do it everywhere are why we all won't be allowed to do it anywhere." The other side saying, "those vapers who won't do it anywhere and saying 'neither should you' are why usage bans are oh so easy and magically popping up with little or no resistance to them."
Either way, as a community, we are pretty much telling the general public that you need not worry, we vapers got this covered in terms of who's responsible for why vaping stopped occurring in public sometime around early 2014.
For me, the "etc" (though written as "ect") in post 1086 is the teeny tiny little part in the post that makes world of difference. Cause all these thoughtful/considerate vapers who won't do it in x, y and z places probably have own exceptions as to where it must be allowed, i.e. outside, or on own property, or wherever. Cause, you know, it's legal to vape, and therefore they, or we, have a right to do it in some places, legally.
But just think, some vapers may disagree with you. That even on your own property, or in your own car, or for sure outside (in public) it ought not be allowed. I mean if you don't smoke in your own car, or don't smoke inside your own house, or don't smoke at an outdoor public place, then really you have no argument for why you should be allowed to vape in those places. From a certain vaper's perspective, your insistence to do it in these places is precisely what is giving vaping a bad name. In your own space is arguably the worse, cause that's where you are likely building up some sort of habit that turns vaping into an addiction and then from there who knows where you'll want to vape. So, really, let's just take off the 'on your own property' as an okay place to vape. If there is children present there, or ever will be (think about THV), then your own property is a place not to vape, if you care about society.
So, fellow vapers, who think posts like 1086 make sense, please feel free to educate the vaping community as to where it is okay to vape, and some hyper sensitive vaper, will come along and let you know precisely why it is not okay to do it there and why it must absolutely not be allowed. We'll be sure to let you know how your use is hurting the larger vaping community and working against everyone.
Me, and a bunch of other fellow vapers, will continue to advocate for vape everywhere in the hopes that this 2014 battle isn't the end to vaping as we know it, or once knew it.
Ban its usage from most everywhere, and really, what is the argument for needing to get this stuff online, when general public will observe that it can be bought at B&M stores, in face to face transactions that prohibit children from buying them. You think non vapers, or the media, will care '2 cents' about whether or not you can get stuff online? You think non-vapers, or the media, will care at all about what flavors are allowed to be made? I mean you were happy as a smoker with tobacco or menthol as only flavor choices, why do you need any more than that? Big old tobacco pipes have been around forever, but you chose cigarettes instead, and therefore cigalikes ought to be good enough for you going forward. Curious why you would argue differently, unless it is simply about "me me me" and not caring that children could be sensitive to big old mod devices and the (third hand) vapor they produce.
Boy, am I glad there are vapers who are way more politically aware than those who float these things out there and don't seem to consider how much they are willfully assisting the opposition that is doing everything possible, including mass deception, to decimate the eCig industry.
