Why you crave cigarettes and have withdrawl after starting up the E-Cig

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Nicotine is a highly addictive substance, but nicotine by itself is not enough to keep you from quitting.
The nicotine you get from an analog is considered "crack nicotine" . The cigarette companies add ammonia and a vast amount of other chemicals to the mix to keep you addicted...it's like being on crack or heroine.
Another reason we withdrawl is because the Monoamine oxidase inhibitors that are in analogs are not in NRT's or e-cigarettes/pv's.
Monoamine oxidase inhibitors are powerful antideppresant drugs. Anyone that has been on an antideppresant knows that once your body is accustomed to the drug, you can't just stop without there being some consequences.

The reason I post this info is because I see alot of posts saying that they don't think their nic level is high enough, or their PV's just aren't enough by themselves. I think it's important for new users to know why they feel the way they do.

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Appears to be a whole lotta evidence supporting that!

Huge amount of information with links to any even larger amount of studies, documentation in the Nicotine forum.

Anecdotal but by no means unique, the combination of snus along with vaping is what cleaned out the last little cravings for a smoke for me.
 

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I believe what you are saying, but if this is true, why do I not want an analog but can't do without my 510?
It's got to do with brain chemistry. Each of us is different. Some people have a genetic disposition toward chemical addiciton whereas others have more of a psychological addiction. They treat tobacco with valerian extracts. That's like natures valium. There is no valerian oil in e-cigs. In fact there is no telling how many components of the chemical cocktail created by burning commercial tobacco are in fact addictive.

My experience was similar to yours. For me switching was very easy. As it was for many of my friends and customers. Still others struggle. It clearly is not about nic strength. Or it wouldn't vary so wildly.
 

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I think there's also the convenience factor. And, for me, the pyro factor. I like lighting up and destroying a small artifact. :evil:

Another reason we withdrawl is because the Monoamine oxidase inhibitors that are in analogs are not in NRT's or e-cigarettes/pv's.
Monoamine oxidase inhibitors are powerful antideppresant drugs. Anyone that has been on an antideppresant knows that once your body is accustomed to the drug, you can't just stop without there being some consequences.

This is true. Very true. Monkeys given nicotine alone do not develop nearly as much of a habit as monkeys given nicotine + a mild MAO inhibitor, studies have shown.

One point of clarification, though:
The MAOIs used as antidepressants are much more powerful and systemic. MAOI antidepressants have a huge list of drug interactions and dietary interactions that can be fatal. This doesn't happen with smoking.

(I've written about this in a couple other places here, and when I have the time I'll write a longer post on the differences between botanical/natural MAOIs and the prescription MAOIs. I'm just a pharma geek.)
 
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