Why you don't put your PV in your bag with batteries in it! - M6 Motorway

[NorthOfAtlanta]

Fake cigarette triggers major M6 anti-terror incident - Telegraph

 

[Petrodus]

Just heard about this on the news

I'm wondering if what really happened was someone
saw the person vaping ... THEN noticed the person
putting it in the bag.

batteries if "ON" can overheat ...
So, its possible a battery left on
could have been the source for the "smoke"

Regardless ...
Overheating PV batteries, in the news, is not
helping our cause.

 

[rolygate]

Another report says this was due to a passenger seeing another filling their ecig tank by pouring liquid into it, then vaping.

 

[DaveP]

There was something going on and I tend to think that it was a battery overheat. My wife looked at me when the coverage hit Fox News. I held up my Provari and pressed the button for more than 10 seconds, twice ... no vapor. Vapor only comes out when I take a hit. It wasn't someone's ecig, IMO, it was an ecig battery short. I'm thinking something wrapped in tin foil in the bag got pressed and wrapped around the battery. Plastic battery cases work, guys!

Of course, they will blame it on the ecig, not the battery, because THAT'S news! Those things can blow up!

At least the Gardian UK quoted Police correctly.

M6 toll coach terror scare caused by vapour from electronic cigarette | World news | guardian.co.uk

The terror alert, which saw armed policemen and dozens of emergency service vehicles deployed to the motorway near Litchfield, was caused by a "health improvement aid for smokers", police said.

Armed officers responded to a "genuine security alert" from a concerned member of the public on board the coach travelling from Preston to London, according to Staffordshire police.

"The information received concerned a report of vapour escaping from a bag which on investigation turned out to be a health improvement aid for smokers," a force spokeswoman said.

 

[Petrodus]

In the one vaping is a member of a discussion group ...
We might hear some more detailed information.

 

[TennDave]

What I don't understand is why the police had to be called. If I was on that bus and saw "vapor" coming out of a bag, I would direct my attention to it and inform whose ever's it was, that there was something going on in their bag... End of Issue- No incident. Now, if I ever ride on the Megabus, I probably won't be able to vape, or worse yet, I won't be able to travel with my vaping gear.

 

[Petrodus]

What's also strange is why the Vaper didn't simply
immediately open his bag and show everyone that
its just an ecig.

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

Amazing what a difference one day can make, on 9/10/2001 somebody would have said sir your bag is smoking. After 9/11/2001 it's oh crap call the cops his bag is smoking and thousands of people are stopped on the road.

 

[rolygate]

It's part of the current 'terrorist' paranoia in the UK, which some people feel is being whipped up by the media and the parts of government whose budget gets increased if there are any terrorists.

Londoners at one time were used to having thousands of bombs a day going off around them. They just used to shrug and get on with it. Now a wisp of vapor is a media event. If someone gets killed by a terrorist bomb these days, people are OK with massive security measures that shut life down to a standstill. Their parents would be gobsmacked by this pathetic attitude to personal safety at all costs. I used to play in the bombsites as a child, the idea that life has to come to a standstill because someone somewhere wants to kill you is ridiculous. It's never happened before in human history; but now we are treated as sheep that need a shepherd 24/7.

This is the modern media-led world where a minor irritation is a huge event - because nothing else is happening anywhere. It's just too darn safe now, and today's generation in most Western countries just don't have a clue how safe and easy life is for them. A sneeze gets headlines.

 

[tommy2bad]

What's also strange is why the Vaper didn't simply
immediately open his bag and show everyone that
its just an ecig.

Because some muppet went to the driver and got the police involved without checking it first. By the time the cops stop the bus it looks like a 'major terror alert' everyone just dose what they are told.
I would just have gotten off the bus too. Wouldn't want to get shot for looking in my own bag.

 

[rolygate]

There are all kinds of different reports: a 'smoking' bag / a person pouring liquid into a tank that then emitted 'smoke' / invent your own. Maybe tomorrow we'll know more.

Makes more sense if the driver saw some smoke and wanted the police to throw a smoker off the bus, then it all got blown up out of all proportion because that way the driver can make it look as if he wasn't just being a twerp.

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

Going to be interesting if we ever find out what really started it, why do I feel like it's going to be someone with nothing better to do than cause someone else problems.

 

[gwhy!]

What have really pis**d off about this is in the main news ( in the evening ) it was hardly mentioned except grouped in with another report about 6 arrested for terrorist acts ( but the media havent said what, and its probably nothing ), its this sort of mis-reporting that causes the problems in the first place, the media is pants ( and not just in the uk ) and there is a lot of people that are getting brain washed and always thinking the worst of people and are to frightened to use a bit of common sense and just ask questions...

 

[Feuille]

The witness called the police who told him to speak to the driver and tell him to pull over. The vaper could not just open his bag as the group of passengers were surrounded by police snipers who were watching them for any suspicious activity. If he had opened his bag to reveal his device he could have been shot.

 

[Feuille]

And yes, the media wants you to be afraid. Very afraid. If people are afraid they buy more papers and watch more news.

 

[Vocalek]

So the bottom line is that is to avoid being screwed by the media and government we need to remember to unscrew our batteries before stowing our equipment.

 

[rolygate]

None of my ecigs - minis, midsize or APVs - create any vapor if you put them in a bag and lock the switch on. They might create smoke if the battery melted. What we are looking at here is a passenger complaining about someone stealth-vaping and blowing vapor into a bag.

 

[chips]

I actually read this thinking it was some kind of e cig publicity stunt.

I mean if anyone hadnt heard of e cigs before, they have now!

Plus the police statement was quite positive, they said that the smoke was caused by someone using 'health improvement aid for smokers'

The Daily Mail is asking for anyone who knows who the vaper was to come forward, I hope they find him, he will be a vaping legend surely!

 

[Petrodus]

What is important is that we are not seeing any negative press about e-cigs.
In the past ... The press would have jumped in with the Chicken Little
"The sky is falling" thing.

 

[Stubby]

TOTALLY WICKED- M6 MEGABUS Terror Suspect. UNVeiled, MEGA Tornado Electronic Cigarette - YouTube