Best PV for Long Term Cost-Effective Upkeep?

[Thrasher]

I 3rd the Provape. if looking for something smaller and less fancy feature wise.
less then 4 inches long.
Uses rechargeable batteries.
Lifetime warranty, with a 7day return policy if not happy with it.
simple, small and built to last.
6 months from now you dont like it ,easily worth 75% of original price.

 

[Waterman]

tc1 advised a twist/spinner is an excellent choice, I started with a couple of 1000mah twists to learn with, and a couple of juices that didn't taste right and I thought I didn't like changed with a little more voltage, strawberries and cream was one of them, it was sort of sour and weak tasting. Upped the voltage from 3.7 to 4.2 and instantly changed to good tasting warm flavorful vapor. I have to admit I like MattBott's suggestion of the Boss mod ,nice and simple.But without VV I don't think I can be satisfied.

 

[tc1]

I could be wrong ... but I think The PrecisePlus and Provape-1 are the only mechanical mods with a lifetime warranty. The Provape-1 is slightly cheaper but the PrecisePlus has a mod that allows use for the kick. Of course, by the time you buy the PrecisePlus and the conversion kit WITH kick ... you're looking at well over $200.

 

[Ansah]

Great suggestions, thanks...

 

[QBerry21]

+1 for the kicked Silver Bullet! Kicked it's amazing. I love it! I actually just ordered my first VW mod today though and I'm really excited to use it. But anyways, if your highest concern is having a cost effective set up, then I HIGHLY suggest getting a VV/VW mod that's able to check the ohms on your atty and then getting a RBA (Rebuildable Atomizer). THAT is by far the most cost effective way of vaping! Plus its fun to mess around with your resistance on the coil and find your sweet spot The reason for getting the VV/VW mod is because you'll never really get the exact same ohms that you built on a previous coil (close, but not exact). That way you can just adjust the volt/watts to your preference. Hope this helps

 

[klynnn]

For cost efficiency a spinner/twist with a vivi nova. Watch the videos and learn how to rebuild the heads, it's really easy. It will give you a chance to try the vv and find what you like best. The heads last a long time if you clean them regularly and are replaceable for about 2.50. In the long run the mods with the rechargeable batteries is the way to go, but you have to learn enough to decide which is best for you. The hardest part is finding a juice that you like.

 

[elmattias]

For cost efficiency a spinner/twist with a vivi nova. Watch the videos and learn how to rebuild the heads, it's really easy. It will give you a chance to try the vv and find what you like that. The heads last a long time if you clean them regularly and are replaceable for about 2.50. In the long run the mods with the rechargeable batteries is the way to go, but you have to learn enough to decide which is best for you. The hardest part is finding a juice that you like.

couldn't agree less on the eGo twist or the vision spinner.....if the sealed internal battery corrupts or goes out (batteries go dead eventually, just a fact of life) it's time for a new device....if the same happens to an 18650, you just buy a new 18650....the difference? about 15-20 dollars cheaper to replace an 18650.

the nova i won't touch because there are even more cost effective options than that....but it is a nice intro into rebuildables

 

[klynnn]

For a novice just starting out they are a good beginning. Elmattias most people don't have your knowledge of electronics. After spending lots of time on here and learning a tremendous amount I agree with you but when I started you would have been speaking Greek to me.

 

[krazykj03]

GGTS or Caravela are great mechanical mods... you can never go wrong..

 

[QBerry21]

couldn't agree less on the eGo twist or the vision spinner.....if the sealed internal battery corrupts or goes out (batteries go dead eventually, just a fact of life) it's time for a new device....if the same happens to an 18650, you just buy a new 18650....the difference? about 15-20 dollars cheaper to replace an 18650.

the nova i won't touch because there are even more cost effective options than that....but it is a nice intro into rebuildables

I totally agree. You can buy a AW 18650 2000mAh at RTD Vapor for just $10.95. I'm also not really a fan of the Vivi Nova's because they mute the flavor of my juice so much...

 

[elmattias]

For a novice just starting out they are a good beginning. Elmattias most people don't have your knowledge of electronics. After spending lots of time on here and learning a tremendous amount I agree with you but when I started you would have been speaking Greek to me.

irrelevant to the topic, which i will refer to again: best PV for long term cost effective upkeep.

while i agree that the twist or spinner is a great device for a newbie, they simply cannot compete with something along the lines of a solid mechanical like the silver bullet, bolt, BB, provape-1, REO, X-haler, GG, caravela, etc. etc.

i don't see how much greek i was talking, i mentioned an 18650, which a quick google search would reveal that to be a battery. so i don't see where you can say i was talking over anyone's head...i barely touched RBAs, even gave credit to the nova as a great intro to rebuildables...

but as far as on-topic, the twist and/or spinner are on the further end from cost-effectiveness, as they aren't expected to last more than a year, and most don't last six months.

 

[klynnn]

Of course Elmattias you are always right I forgot.

 

[Wa J]

what do you guys think of the ego-c twist?

 

[elmattias]

I totally agree. You can buy a AW 18650 2000mAh at RTD Vapor for just $10.95. I'm also not really a fan of the Vivi Nova's because they mute the flavor of my juice so much...

i grab 18650s for around 7 bucks at LJ's E-smokes.....best deal i've found on single batteries, not AW, but same chemistry and they work just as well

 

[elmattias]

Of course Elmattias you are always right I forgot.

not always right, just always logical.

 

[-Mimi-]

what do you guys think of the ego-c twist?

They are ok for someone just starting out in vaping BUT I don't recommend them long term unless you just can't afford anything more than a $20 battery. I hate mine. The numbers are impossible to see on the twist dial, I am having issues with mine over heating and having to charge more than the norm. I don't feel they are capable of handling someone who vapes a lot. Those who vape a lot are ready for a better pv in a short amount of time. If you like the size and shape, look for the super ego vv instead. Here is a link to one (even though they are sold out) so you can see: Super Pass-Thru Variable Voltage eGo (v2) It has the lcd so you can change the voltage MUCH easier and see where you are, as well as, a passthrough so you can vape while it is charging (unlike the twist).

I bought a twist starter kit for $50 and that money could have bought a MUCH better start up kit. Even the clearomizers that came with mine were junk. I realize what tanks you get can vary by suppliers but it was still part of the package. There ARE better options out there than the twist as you can see in this thread Bottom line though, it is all about preference, affordability, how much you vape and if you intend on vaping to be long term or as a means to help you quit smoking.

 

[flintlock62]

I think of it as a disposable device containing a sealed battery, and good as as a back up to the LONG term devices elmattius described. Without revisiting the entire list, the Provape-1 has a life time warranty, and therefore,a true long term PV. A Provape-1 kit costs about $130, a Twist costs $24. When a Twist dies, it is thrown away.

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what do you guys think of the ego-c twist?

 

[Ansah]

...they simply cannot compete with something along the lines of a solid mechanical like the silver bullet, bolt, BB, provape-1, REO, X-haler, GG, caravela, etc. etc.

Yup. As I look into this stuff, this is exactly the conclusion I am coming to, and the direction in which I am likely to go.

 

[QBerry21]

i grab 18650s for around 7 bucks at LJ's E-smokes.....best deal i've found on single batteries, not AW, but same chemistry and they work just as well

Oh sweet! Thanks for the heads up!

 

[tc1]

The nice thing about starting on a Twist/Spinner is that if you decide to move up, they make great backup devices or a "on the go" pv so you don't have to worry about losing or breaking a more expensive mod by carrying it all over the place. Even if you want to start on a good mod ... I'd recommend one for a cheap vv backup honestly.

One of the worse mistakes you can make when entering the world of vaping to quit cigs is to have one and only one device at your disposal. An option B is a good idea in case anything might happen to your main device.