Best PV for Long Term Cost-Effective Upkeep?

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The nice thing about starting on a Twist/Spinner is that if you decide to move up, they make great backup devices or a "on the go" pv so you don't have to worry about losing or breaking a more expensive mod by carrying it all over the place. Even if you want to start on a good mod ... I'd recommend one for a cheap vv backup honestly.

losing? sure. breaking? nah, if it's mechanical...you can fix them relatively easily....then again i have multiple mods to carry......
 

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losing? sure. breaking? nah, if it's mechanical...you can fix them relatively easily....then again i have multiple mods to carry......

Not everyone is both comfortable and/or capable of fixing them though. And if that person drops his $150 mod out of a 2 story balcony ... into a pool (or smashing it on the pavement) ... at 2 a.m on a Saturday morning. Best to have something else to vape or else they'll almost certainly light up a cig.
 

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Not everyone is both comfortable and/or capable of fixing them though. And if that person drops his $150 mod out of a 2 story balcony ... into a pool (or smashing it on the pavement) ... at 2 a.m on a Saturday morning. Best to have something else to vape or else they'll almost certainly light up a cig.

dropped into the pool? put it in a bag of rice and it will dry out in about an hour.....this also works for more advanced electronic devices like cell phones.

smashed into pavement? hole in the side of the mod? extra ventilation holes. switch popped out? screw it back in.....

mechanical mods have no wires, quite frankly if you can wrap a coil on a vivi nova, you can fix a mechanical mod blindfolded.

furthermore, most of the big named expensive mechanical mods are made of sturdy metals like stainless steel....which technically, if dropped from a two story window, i'd be more worried about the concrete or if someone was standing in the impact zone.
 

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I'm not sure what the discussion is frankly. Seems pretty obvious to me that only having a single vaping device in your arsenal is not a great recommendation, especially for someone coming straight off of analogs.

There's literally millions of circumstances that could leave that person with zero ability to vape, causing them to fall back on analogs.
Isn't that what we're trying to PREVENT on this forum? :confused: Having a spare device to use in case of emergency is as important as deciding what your main device of choice will be IMHO.
 

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I'm not sure what the discussion is frankly. Seems pretty obvious to me that only having a single vaping device in your arsenal is not a great recommendation, especially for someone coming straight off of analogs.

There's literally millions of circumstances that could leave that person with zero ability to vape, causing them to fall back on analogs.
Isn't that what we're trying to PREVENT on this forum? :confused: Having a spare device to use in case of emergency is as important as deciding what your main device of choice will be IMHO.

zero ability to vape is pretty vague, you can take an 18650 battery, a small piece of wire and some scotch tape and vape a carto off of JUST A BATTERY

the device just makes it easier....i'm not saying no to backups, i'm just saying that your arguments are invalid in addition to their irrationality.
 

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Might be nice to pick up an inexpensive VV like a Twist or Spinner just to test other voltages and see if you want to stay at 3.7. I have not found a dead on ringer for a tobacco but there is alot of good flavors out there to put a smile on yer face. Buy sample packs and an atomizer to find ones you like before buying larger bottles.
 

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I'm saying that a Twist or Spinner makes a solid choice as a backup pv. I'm saying that having an emergency backup pv is important in case something happens to your main pv.


Your continued need to constantly create arguments on this board, even when a statement is simple common sense is what I call irrational honestly.
 

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I'm saying that a Twist or Spinner makes a solid choice as a backup pv. I'm saying that having an emergency backup pv is important in case something happens to your main pv.


Your continued need to constantly create arguments on this board, even when a statement is simple common sense is what I call irrational honestly.

I don't continually create arguments,I debate.

If you don't like my rebuttals of your inconsistent, irrelevant, and irrational points that you make when you can't admit yourself to be mistaken, then by all means, stop responding....

At this point you are just beating an off topic horse corpse.

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Wow guys, chill!

The OP asked "what is a LONG term device"? A long term device is something that will last, and is well made. Yes, a Twist is OK for a back up, but the OP didn't ask about back up devices. Why is this being run into the ground?

Because someone can't let certain things go and doesn't realize they're off topic?

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I tend to make general statements in posts like this because I know there is a chance other people new to vaping will read the thread. That's why I decided to speak about having an Option B, even if it wasn't exactly what the OP was asking (he already has an ego, so he would be set in an emergency).

Honestly the question was probably already answered. A mechanical mod will generally have the lowest failure rate because they are simple designs with little to no potential failure points. No chipset or electronic "brains" that have a potential to fail over time.

A simple tube mod and perhaps a Kick is a solid suggestion to the OP. Even if the Kick eventually dies on you, the mod can still be used. And while the Kick works ... you can use it in multiple mechanical mods to allow you to adjust your vapor and taste.
 

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Yes, but constant bickering turns people off. You have already made your point, and yes, I agree about back ups. However, there are plenty of posts about the Twist. There are also numerous posts about the Spinner. If you go back to the first post, the OP didn't want VV, or VW. I hope you understand why I say this.

I tend to make general statements in posts like this because I know there is a chance other people new to vaping will read the thread. That's why I decided to speak about having an Option B, even if it wasn't exactly what the OP was asking (he already has an ego, so he would be set in an emergency).

Honestly the question was probably already answered. A mechanical mod will generally have the lowest failure rate because they are simple designs with little to no potential failure points. No chipset or electronic "brains" that have a potential to fail over time.

A simple tube mod and perhaps a Kick is a solid suggestion to the OP. Even if the Kick eventually dies on you, the mod can still be used. And while the Kick works ... you can use it in multiple mechanical mods to allow you to adjust your vapor and taste.
 

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I would recommend to the OP to try VV/VW before they decide it's a feature they do not want. It's a feature that has dramatically changed the vaping experience for many of us on this board. (myself included)

Going from an ego that outputs 3.2 volts to a VV device is night and day when it comes to vapor production and taste.
 

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the silver bullet from altsmoke is a solid device. i have dropped mine over 20 times, i even dropped it 10 foot off a ladder onto a sidewalk the fall broke the carto that was on it and got a tinny little nick in the paint but it still works as good as day 1. it costs around 85 bucks but its well worth the price imo.

and if you change your mind about vv/vw later on you can put a kick in it ( a kick would be a good way to get a better vape out of it and you can pretty much just set it and forget it )
another SB vote.
 

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I think you can only get the official SB at altsmoke. AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | | Silver Bullet | Best electronic cigarettes| Cigarettes Electronic| Cigarette Electronic Cigarette| Best Electronic Cigarettes | Electronic Cigarettes

There are cheaper versions called the "bullet" at places like madvapes which are around 60% less of cost. A little cheaper build quality but since it's a pretty simple mechanical tube mod, some might feel the dramatic cost difference is not worth buying the official version.
 

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    Several vendors carry the SB as a convenience to local walk in traffic. The only on line vendor is the manufacturer (AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | Your one stop shop!)

    The cheap(er) knock off at MadVapes is called the "Bolt"

    I would also add that the SB is not a mechanical mod in the true sense of the term.
    The Legacy from Puresmoker.com, the Presice from Supertmanufacturing.com, and the Titanide Themis from electronicstix.com come to mind when thinking of mechanical mods.
     
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