Best PV for Long Term Cost-Effective Upkeep?

[Racehorse]

The OP asked "what is a LONG term device"? A long term device is something that will last, and is well made.

well, then we get into "how long is long-term?".

With technology in it's infancy as far as vaping goes, not sure I WANT something to last *forever*. At least, I don't wanna pay the big bucks that that seems to incur.

And BTW, TC1, I don't think there are many who would argue that Twists and Egos are great backup devices. If you took a vote out there, for 10,000 people who vape, and took a count on devices used, I have NO DOUBT that they would show the highest numbers. They are prolific in use.....simple, cheap, and have gotten and kept people off analogs. Some people never upgrade past them either.

Altsmoke is a terrific vendor. They sell SBs, but they sell nice Joyetech Twists, too.

 

[Baditude]

well, then we get into "how long is long-term?"

How Long Do You Want It To Last?
My perspective pro's and con's of "short-term durability devices" vs "long-term durability devices":

Short-term durability devices:
These are the rechargable batteries such as the stick batteries and eGo batteries that have a limited expected life span and are rated for 250 or so charges. Then they will need to be replaced. Cheaper to buy initially and closer to an analogue in form factor, but the battery duration is limited by its smaller size. 3-4 hours for the cig-look-a-likes; 6-12 hours for the longer eGo's. These are are relatively fragile when compared to the devices in the next category. More than one must be carried as a second one will be needed while the first one is being recharged. Narrow form factor can limit the capacity of juice carrying devices used.

Long-term durability devices:
These are the battery holders (tube or box mods) that are built to last years, and use replaceable batteries. More expensive initially, but the use of stronger materials will allow these devices to take some punishment yet continue to work. Only one device need be carried; when the replaceable battery's charge dies, it is merely replaced by another small battery. Much easier to carry a couple small batteries along than multiple additional devices like the stick or eGo batteries.

Depending upon the size of mod/batteries used, these devices can be used up to all day or more with a single battery. The batteries are cheaper (< $10) and last longer (said to last up to a year). The larger form factor also allows for larger juice carrying devices such as a cartotank, which can hold up to 8ml of juice.

Fixed voltage mechanical mod or variable wattage/variable voltage? Size and form factor. Button placement. Chinese origin or other origin (I include this for warranty consideration and the feasibility of repair once the warranty has run out.)

My personal recommendation would be the Altsmoke Silver Bullet.

 

[flintlock62]

The OP said he has an eGo-C, so he already has a back up. He concluded he wanted long term, and there are but few to chose from meeting that criteria. He also didn't want the technology with the bells and whistles, which narrows the field even further. If he hadn't said what he did, I probably would have suggested a Twist. I own two Twists!

Respectfully,
David

well, then we get into "how long is long-term?".

With technology in it's infancy as far as vaping goes, not sure I WANT something to last *forever*. At least, I don't wanna pay the big bucks that that seems to incur.

And BTW, TC1, I don't think there are many who would argue that Twists and Egos are great backup devices. If you took a vote out there, for 10,000 people who vape, and took a count on devices used, I have NO DOUBT that they would show the highest numbers. They are prolific in use.....simple, cheap, and have gotten and kept people off analogs. Some people never upgrade past them either.

Altsmoke is a terrific vendor. They sell SBs, but they sell nice Joyetech Twists, too.

 

[immortalmayhem]

Provari is not as difficult to use as people assume, I started with a ego twist and moved to a provari after successfully quitting smoking and I don't even mess with the features. The only time I do is when I switch out carto or different juice. Different juices sometimes vapes better at different voltages. Ego is as easy to use as anything I have seen, It has some features but I really don't mess with it.

 

[Sls3000]

One thing I think is important is being able to swap out the batteries, that is the week link in having something around for a long time. The twists will eventually not take a charge and will need to be chucked.

 

[Ansah]

One thing I think is important is being able to swap out the batteries, that is the week link in having something around for a long time. The twists will eventually not take a charge and will need to be chucked.

Yeah, and there is also the weak link of attys/cartos that need to be rebuilt or replaced. My long term goal is to have 2 really well-built mods with swappable batteries with the simplicity of constant voltage, and a couple of high quality RBAs that I become proficient in re-coiling and re-wicking.

Then it's just a question of stocking up on juice. I admit to being anxiety-ridden over the whole political landscape of proscriptions and such. It's the only real reason I gave up old-fashioned smoking some years ago. Alternative delivery systems are fine and I really like vape, but if I somehow time traveled to 1965 and found myself in a world where cigarettes were cheap, plentiful and socially acceptable I'd be OK with that too.