Why YOU should not order from FastTech.

[Uncle Willie]

I'm pretty much in the same boat with the other guys. This whole "buy American" idea falls flat and is misguided when you are talking about imported products.

If you are convinced it is no different, then that is certainly your prerogative ..

It's funny to me that we here on ECF love to dis the Man .. he being the FDA / Gov Regs, etc .. yet the American businesses that have the most to lose if / when regulation comes down are expected to be in the forefront of battling that same regulation .. and ironically, it seems many would rather save a few bucks than help support the USA Businesses that we expect to help us out when it comes to holding regulation down to a minimum .. I don't think China is trying to save our rights ..

But, my years in the Military I guess made me odd that way .. I'll pay $50.00 more for a pair of boots made in the USA even though I know I could get something similar cheaper made out of country .. us old guys with the "buy America" credo are dying out ..

I've said my say ..

 

[Ref Minor]

If you are convinced it is no different, then that is certainly your prerogative ..

It's funny to me that we here on ECF love to dis the Man .. he being the FDA / Gov Regs, etc .. yet the American businesses that have the most to lose if / when regulation comes down are expected to be in the forefront of battling that same regulation .. and ironically, it seems many would rather save a few bucks than help support the USA Businesses that we expect to help us out when it comes to holding regulation down to a minimum .. I don't think China is trying to save our rights ..

But, my years in the Military I guess made me odd that way .. I'll pay $50.00 more for a pair of boots made in the USA even though I know I could get something similar cheaper made out of country .. us old guys with the "buy America" credo are dying out ..

I've said my say ..

You have changed your argument from wanting to buy Chinese goods from an American retailer to wanting to buy US made goods.

 

[Mowgli]

But, my years in the Military I guess made me odd that way .. I'll pay $50.00 more for a pair of boots made in the USA even though I know I could get something similar cheaper made out of country .. us old guys with the "Buy America" credo are dying out ..

I've said my say ..

Flip a mug upside down at your local Harley Davidson dealer. MIC
Check the tag on a stuffed animal at the Smithsonian Institute gift shop. MIC
At the United States of America's very own museum.
Made in the same factory that manufactures missile guidance systems and sells to whoever.

My moccasins (ring boots) were handmade about 8 miles from my house.
They're double-soled leather so I get them resoled at the same place.
ARROW MOCCASIN COMPANY

I'd pay an extra $50 if I could replace my old USA made Red Wings or Chippewa with MiUSA

My FT Vamo/batts/charger & additional Vamo shipments both took 8 days to my door.
That was over a month ago so I don't know how long it takes now.

 

[OzarkTroutBum]

If you are convinced it is no different, then that is certainly your prerogative ..

It's funny to me that we here on ECF love to dis the Man .. he being the FDA / Gov Regs, etc .. yet the American businesses that have the most to lose if / when regulation comes down are expected to be in the forefront of battling that same regulation .. and ironically, it seems many would rather save a few bucks than help support the USA Businesses that we expect to help us out when it comes to holding regulation down to a minimum .. I don't think China is trying to save our rights ..

But, my years in the Military I guess made me odd that way .. I'll pay $50.00 more for a pair of boots made in the USA even though I know I could get something similar cheaper made out of country .. us old guys with the "Buy America" credo are dying out ..

I've said my say ..

Except for the fact that most B&M shops or even US based online retailers have very little in the way of American made products. They are happy importing and making their markup on people who like the convenience of readily available imported products. I am willing to pay for that convenience too, just not on every purchase.

I understand your sentiment about it, but not really sure how to apply it to a market almost entirely dominated by imported products.
Needlessly handing my entire vaping budget to a US importer because of their physical location when I could just as easily spend that money on other goods and services in the US just seems misguided to me.

 

[Ref Minor]

And the funny thing is, I am not an American nor do I live there

 

[Uncle Willie]

You have changed your argument from wanting to buy Chinese goods from an American retailer to wanting to buy US made goods.

I really wish folks would actually follow the "thread" of a discussion ..

 

[Maggiemw]

I fully agree with RefMinor. I'm also neither American nor an American resident, btw, but I am an economist.

The very few resellers of ecig-related stuff where I live easily take a 500% markup on very basic stuff. A $6 FT 650 mah generic ego bat can cost $32. These are online resellers, with no excuses such as B&M running costs. They buy their stuff from the same manufacturers as FT does. They are simply playing on market rarity here, lack of competition, and sorry, there is no way I need to play that game.

It is far more beneficial for my country's economy if I use the savings I now have to buy goods and services that are produced here, which is what I do - I have more ready cash to pay repairmen, take taxis, eat in restaurants, leave tips, take courses, pay entrance fees, contribute to charity...whatever.

If I calculate my savings from not smoking and subtract what I buy at FT, I currently have about $150 more a month for other goods and services and stuff...I'm not ripping anybody off or weakening our retail sector. I've got more disposable income to spread around. Paying ridiculously inflated resellers' prices would just be silly.

 

[Mowgli]

I fully agree with RefMinor. I'm also neither American nor an American resident, btw, but I am an economist.

The very few resellers of ecig-related stuff where I live easily take a 500% markup on very basic stuff. A $6 FT 650 mah generic ego bat can cost $32. These are online resellers, with no excuses such as B&M running costs. They buy their stuff from the same manufacturers as FT does. They are simply playing on market rarity here, lack of competition, and sorry, there is no way I need to play that game.

It is far more beneficial for my country's economy if I use the savings I now have to buy goods and services that are produced here, which is what I do - I have more ready cash to pay repairmen, take taxis, eat in restaurants, leave tips, take courses, pay entrance fees, contribute to charity...whatever.

If I calculate my savings from not smoking and subtract what I buy at FT, I currently have about $150 more a month for other goods and services and stuff...I'm not ripping anybody off or weakening our retail sector. I've got more disposable income to spread around. Paying ridiculously inflated resellers' prices would just be silly.

Awesome.

Last month I got my 2 pairs of moccasins resoled and bought another new pair with my vape vs smoke savings.
I am stimulating. The economy I mean

 

[Ref Minor]

Good thread .. I'll only add that, although I know the vast majority of our hardware and much of the liquid does come from China, I prefer to buy from a USA based American owned business .. even if it costs a bit more .. not necessarily for the speed of delivery, but because I like to support our USA businesses ..

I really wish folks would actually follow the "thread" of a discussion ..

Touché, although the posts support my statement.

 

[_sidekick_]

Is this news or something? I thought everyone knew FT took forever...

 

[Ref Minor]

Is this news or something? I thought everyone knew FT took forever...

Apparently not everyone, a lot of people get surprised and annoyed when their order hasn't arrived in a week. Some don't even notice it is based in China.

 

[szot]

Understandably we all want to support our own country's economy, but we all do it in different ways..I agree with ref and Maggie and with all their points..spreading our FT savings to local people and businesses..

willie..I too served in the US military, 30 years, and all over the world from the middle east to the UK and many other countries...TY for your service...I understand your desire to help the US economy and our family and neighbors who are unemployed and not doing so great...your intentions are good but I disagree with your logic...but as U stated, U know that China has the monopoly on Ecigs and we are left with no other choices basically, and U buy these China products via a local shop...so buying soley from a local vape shop only helps 1 person and still U are supporting China made products...doesn't it seem more logical and patriotic to support as many of your local people and businesses U can by using the savings from buying directly from China...and as far as believing that ONLY B&M shops fight against FDA, state and local ordinances against Ecigs, is not true at all,..CASAA is made up of many people like myself who vape and we , CASAA are the ones at every meeting fighting against ridiculous laws, ..its not the local B&M shops there, who actually are the minority at these meetings ...

when U hear and see the ads "BUY America" that means MADE IN USA, not just sold in USA..I just learned today and was VERY shocked that Walmart's products, including foods and everything they sell, are now over 2/3rd 66% MADE in the USA, contrary to my previous beliefs..

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

If you are convinced it is no different, then that is certainly your prerogative ..

It's funny to me that we here on ECF love to dis the Man .. he being the FDA / Gov Regs, etc .. yet the American businesses that have the most to lose if / when regulation comes down are expected to be in the forefront of battling that same regulation .. and ironically, it seems many would rather save a few bucks than help support the USA Businesses that we expect to help us out when it comes to holding regulation down to a minimum .. I don't think China is trying to save our rights ..

But, my years in the Military I guess made me odd that way .. I'll pay $50.00 more for a pair of boots made in the USA even though I know I could get something similar cheaper made out of country .. us old guys with the "Buy America" credo are dying out ..

I've said my say ..

American proverb "Buy American" Chinese Proverb "Buy America" Government has helped them reach that goal...sorry...Reason China is kicking our hiney...FDA, OSHA, AHA, heck...you figure it out litigation litigation more litigation, regulation regulation and MORE regulation...

If the government would get out of the way...and let the system work (as you can see "capitalism in its pure form works...even for Communist China" as in people WILL find and buy the cheapest stuff...because it's how that whole "competition" thing works...hmmm)...but they just don't get it...

Wanna see just how hard it is...start up a business that competes with them...and see how long you last

That is as far as I will go politically...but...that's just how it is

 

[nap317]

So, here's my question: if I want to be sure I'm getting authentic items, I'm looking for the make AND model listed on FT's site? I see a lot of evod things, but it doesn't say Kanger....so I can assume that those are clones, right?

I'm mainly curious about Kanger stuff like coil heads, and I'm eyeing an Innokin MVP. Part of me wants to just stick with folks I'm already buying from....I'm patient enough, but start getting crazy after so long. Ha!

 

[Pinggolfer]

when U hear and see the ads "BUY America" that means MADE IN USA, not just sold in USA..I just learned today and was VERY shocked that Walmart's products, including foods and everything they sell, are now over 2/3rd 66% MADE in the USA, contrary to my previous beliefs..

You are correct, the problem is Walmart is using food to boost those numbers. At least 70% of their items not including food are all made in China, even their American flags. Most of their drugs are made in India, but CVS, etc do the same thing. I was shocked to hear my heart medicine was made in India which I purchased at CVS. So now I buy it from Walmart for less the half what CVS charges.

Another point FastTech is a middleman but has the ability to purchase direct from Chinese suppliers. I feel better buying my iTaste vv 3.0 here in the USA for $45.00 then buying V-2 from FastTech for $37.00. To each their own.

 

[Harleybarbie]

Received this email from Fasttech today

From support@fasttech.com
Dear Xxxx

RE: New tracking number for order (I omitted this number)

Thank you for your order placed at FastTech.

As you may have noticed, your package's tracking has not been updating at Hong Kong Post's website due to an unusually long wait time at Hong Kong airport's cargo security x-ray checkpoint. At the same time, it seems that packages shipped in the past few days are flying through these security checkpoints without any noticeable delay.

We apologize for the wait. To ensure your package does not spend anymore time at the said x-ray checkpoint, FastTech unprecedentedly recalled packages from Hong Kong Post and then immediately shipped them out again. As your package exits and re-enters the the Hong Kong Post system, it is now treated as a new package and thus it is expected to fly through security inspections, just like all other recent packages.

To facilitate this process, a new tracking number was assigned to your package: Omitted

Your new tracking link is: I omitted it

You might wonder what happened to the old tracking number and whether the old was "a fake". Please be assured that your previous tracking number is real. If you have clicked on the previous tracking link, you probably have noticed that Hong Kong Post displayed a tracking status that just wasn't updating. FastTech posts a package image for virtually all packages shipped and FastTech never fakes a shipment.

Please be assured that your package is on its way to you without further delays now.

If you have questions, please feel free to reply to this e-mail.

Thank you.

FastTech Team

support@fasttech.com
http://support.fasttech.com

I will email them back to thank them!

I'm waiting on my second SVD, it took over a month on my last SVD... For me it's about buying backups, and I can and will wait...
I'm never going back to the analogs!

But I'll spend the money I saved at Fasttech on my other hobbies, or a local vendors juice or a not so expensive tank... or gas, or bills, a vacation, saving for something nice for my family, or helping a friend get off analogs that don't have time to do the research or time but expresses an interest to quit!
Or maybe I'll save for that ProVari to say yep I got one... Yep it's very nice...


Just my 2 cents...


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[ricardo rt]

I th9ught it was a good site but now going back to the old failthful vaporbreak.com. I realise in the quantities In order quantity i make it is cheaper. Fastech constantly change their price so it is shaep one week then way over priced the next. but the reviews are good at the cheap price. make up your mind fastech. Vaporbreak.com never did me wrong. Fastech cost me ore in orders that never arrived.

...... and ranting now. but ffs (on my cosuins account also)

 

[Ref Minor]

Bye, it's only a shop, no need to be emotional about using another shop.

 

[theb0b]

I find it interesting that there is so much animosity towards a successful company that is doing it's best.

Having lived in Asia for 20 years, I remember when US companies wouldn't ship overseas for love nor money. Ebay was a constant disappointment because most auctions stated US only. And when they would ship, the shipping was almost always exorbitant. For some reason it was never much of a a problem from European companies.

Now the boot is on the other foot and shipping is far easier worldwide.

I say that the market has decided, and we are all now competing on a level playing field.

I support Fasttech because they are providing goods I want, at a price point that can't be beaten. They don't control the vagaries of customs checks or shipping companies. And I'm sure they are just as frustrated as some customers are, by shipping delays.

I'm aghast at some of the posted replies, to their customer service. I really doubt that insulting complaints will stimulate the support staff into expediting delivery.

There is a huge culture difference between western customers who expect immediate service, and hard pressed asian support staff, struggling to scale up to huge demand.

Patience is a virtue wherever you may be, and manners are free.

Thank you.

 

[Pinggolfer]

I find it interesting that there is so much animosity towards a successful company that is doing it's best.

Having lived in Asia for 20 years, I remember when US companies wouldn't ship overseas for love nor money. Ebay was a constant disappointment because most auctions stated US only. And when they would ship, the shipping was almost always exorbitant. For some reason it was never much of a a problem from European companies.

Now the boot is on the other foot and shipping is far easier worldwide.

I say that the market has decided, and we are all now competing on a level playing field.

I support Fasttech because they are providing goods I want, at a price point that can't be beaten. They don't control the vagaries of customs checks or shipping companies. And I'm sure they are just as frustrated as some customers are, by shipping delays.

I'm aghast at some of the posted replies, to their customer service. I really doubt that insulting complaints will stimulate the support staff into expediting delivery.

There is a huge culture difference between western customers who expect immediate service, and hard pressed asian support staff, struggling to scale up to huge demand.

Patience is a virtue wherever you may be, and manners are free.

Thank you.

I won't say much but you saying the playing field is now level is silly. If it was level the pricing would be somewhat close but it's not. There are only 2 Asian county's which sell quality products Japan and South Korea. China thrives on producting cheap copies of other companies work. Let's not forget China is a communist country with few human rights.

With that said I must purchase e-cig products made in China, however I will purchase those products from US vendors in a attempt to support the economy of the United States.

Thank you