I don't know about the rest of you but I chainvaped all the more, because this thread.
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Why you shouldn't CHAIN vape
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omg, how many times can you miss the point??
Yes - it IS obvious, and that is why your thread title is wrong, misleading, and is NOT the information that should be given out to others.
there is nothing wrong with chain vaping - what is wrong is you did not know what you were doing, BECUASE YOU DID NO RESEASRCH - and THAT's why you had problems.
so you CANNOT make a thread telling other people why 'they' "should not" chain vape... because guess what, chain vaping is safe IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
so this thread with this title that you've posted here is NOT TRUE. that only happened because you didn't pay attention and didn't research.
so you can't be going around telling people 'why THEY shouldn't chain vape'. that is spreading misinformation.
If you MUST post a thread to help others avoid what happened to you, then the ACCURATE thread to make would have been something like "Do your research before chain vaping!"
but again... that's Captain Obvious talking.....
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I never did... although I might have just edged it; I do seem to recall some of those sharp abdom. pains, back when I was smoking, but I probably attributed them to stress or indigestion -- it was probably the stress making me smoke so much I caused them.
Given how long I smoked (39 yrs) and the fact that although at the time I quit I was smoking a pack or less a day, I had in the past smoked as much as 2 or 3 pks a day -- I really thought 12mg would be about right for me, but the store said, no, 18mg... nausea. So then I tried 12mg, and although it seemed ok at first, after a couple hours... nausea. So I went to the 6mg, and that worked fine, though after I had ditched the cigarettes, I needed a little more, 8 or 9 mg. Works great. I can vape one breath right after another, no ill effects. Of course, if I do that for very long, then I do start with the sharp abdom. pains, and I know to ease back a little, and add in some of my 6mg -- I always vape at 6mg at night, to prevent pounding/racing heart when I try to go to sleep. And if I'm going to be busy enough that I can't just vape and vape and vape, I go for 9-10mg. But most of the time, in my normal routines, 9mg seems just fine.
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read through the material. there's tons.
as you learn things, look for new information.
i'm not good with keeping all the links around for every tidbit. anja would likely be real helpful if you asked very nicely. she's a sweetheart and has been a little more involved on that end if i'm correct. methinks little might be an understatement.
though, this abstract of a paper written from a french study should give you some key words to start your search... [Chemicals added to cigarettes and their effe... [Rev Med Suisse. 2009] - PubMed - NCBI
diammonium phosphate, urea, alcalinization, etc. ... couple them with tobacco or cigarette and your eyes should open a bit.
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go to a local pharmacy and pick up some glycerin and cut that nearly in half to lower the strength.
+1 on Anja being a "sweetheart" but also most wise and intelligent plus a straight shooter (ooops... American here) make that "straight talker." Anyway, ditto, the helpful. I don't know how she does it with the links. I admire her memory or note-taking.. whichever. Good advice there... and ditto the glycerin too.
I think you should really try lower nic liquid next time, maybe order online. or else just not chain vape as much as you warnt a very heavy smoker to begin with and that local shop should of asked you these questions but as you say they only do 18mg and nothing else I dont think they cared too much. when I begun the ecig journey all shops I tryed had a range from low to high (8mg-24mg) and asked what I smoked to advise strength, even the not so good ones.
its like anything really in life, certain strengths for certain folks. its like me I love high nic liquid, love high proof spirits like vodka, love really hot curry but my better half has to use 8mg liquid, cant drink anything stronger then alco pop and hates anything near spicy. suppose its really the local vape shop lacking in range thats led to this for you, self education is the only route really lol. you will learn everything you need here on ecf as I have and many others as you read.
Folks, please. We shouldn't be criticizing the OP for his inflammatory thread title or for his pious delivery of utterly obvious information. We should be congratulating him for having fixed his his leaking MVP enough to chain vape in the first place!
(Please learn a little more before sermonizing, eh OP? Nicotine overdoses are not only easily avoidable for the most part; they're generally harmless. You never got a buzz from a cigarette?)
(Please learn a little more before sermonizing, eh OP? Nicotine overdoses are not only easily avoidable for the most part; they're generally harmless. You never got a buzz from a cigarette?)
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it's tough not to chain vape at first. you're battling an addiction and likely going through withdrawal which increases stress and the nic lowers stress levels. so does the ritual. i think it's time you lower your nic level. i'm going to suggest trying 6mg/ml for now. as you learn to curb your vaping when satisfied, feel free to up it to what makes you content or lower it if necessary.
i'm not up on my canadian juice vendors or i'd suggest some. i can suggest some pretty good US juice, though.
i'm not up on my canadian juice vendors or i'd suggest some. i can suggest some pretty good US juice, though.
OP i'm sorry and i'll cut u some slack... your thread title got me a bit upitty, but i now see where you're coming from. after all, were here for support and everyone has different experiences.
Concern trolling?
Why anyone would vape themselves past the point of mild discomfort is beyond me. It's like quaffing 3 liters of strong coffee when you're clearly shaking, sweating and puking after just 1.
Why anyone would vape themselves past the point of mild discomfort is beyond me. It's like quaffing 3 liters of strong coffee when you're clearly shaking, sweating and puking after just 1.
^ Wow! Thank you sooo much for that link WattWick. I had no idea there was an actual definition for it. Thanks to you, I learned something today and that makes it a good one!
Excellent link, dear, thank you very much
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And thank you for the Anja-appreciation day
I try to control my urges, but I still find myself chain-vaping every now and then. When I start feeling a little queezy, that's when I know it's time to put it down for a while.
I can't think that anyone who ever smoked would not know that nicotine can knock you on your behind. I still remember the very first time I inhaled, in college in the 60s. I almost passed out, but managed to stagger (literally) down the hall to share my "success" with my dorm mates. So I have a hard time with the "I didn't know nicotine could do that" business. That said, if I were vaping away and started to feel terrible, then I would stop vaping until those feelings passed. I was an almost 2 pack a day smoker and started with 12 mg and probably vaped enough for 10 people in the beginning and was perfectly fine. I think the OP just got bad advice about starting as high as he did, especially given how little he smoked.
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