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luvs sum ceramic in atty equations. A much more stable & dustless form of silica/alumina that is like glass. They do crack sometimes when doing a rebuild due to rough handling & when they do some slight dust is produced & I do a vacuum of the area. The silicosis risk assessed seems minimal, as the shatter dust is not produced during the vaping process. I imagine deterioration shedding particles happens over time & that could pose a health risk, but I imagine much less than the following.
BJ43 said:
A long time ago we did many tests on cartos and I must have torn apart over a hundred. I sent many swatches of the different material to labs for test. All the lab test came back that the diapers were cotton so your video really surprised me. Just another reason why I quite using them. If I have to vape poly fumes I would rather smoke analogs and every carto I ever took apart the cotton was burnt and some poly melted.
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"carto cotton ?" vid I did & the previosly done testing mentioned by bj43 tells mE. In the beginning the manufacturers thought they needed to meet some form of consumer protection regulation they figured would be quickly forthcoming. I figure most now fully realize uncle sam is turning a blind eye while they stuff his red white & blue pockets with all of their eyes on greed $_$ & not vapers future health roulette spin on possible silicosis/particleinlungdisease or other possible toxins. FDA & consumer protection agencies are mostly asleep @ the wheel & silica wick users are often unwiTTing passengers whom expect the driver to keep them safe.
Nicotine is a drug & batts & atts are legal drug paraphernalia. Keeping that in mind manufacturers & dealers are out to sell a highly addictive substance & its tools first & foremost. Ecig stuff is not often mega corp big guys like philip morris or dunhill & buying their drugs from 7/11. It is more like illicit drug dealers in the sense that many are just regular individuals selling a bit out of their house to pay for their habits & extra $ is a bonus for them. They are in it for the money & not to save mE money nor be a friend whom cares about mE. I know of no supplier that cares about mE as a living creature nor if I suffer. In our system of trade, I do not expect it.
Anyone with a brain aimed @ care is willing to seek safety knowledge & knows silicosis & lung disease is an possible risk. I imagine 99% of Ecig vendors sell products with silica & or fiberglass wickage. To do so is to have little conscious care toward the long term future of those whom vape it. For serious question exists as to if 20 year olds when they get older develop silicosis. Human health long term is in ? & this thread is a fabric made largely of care, more than the knowing potential noose providers selling a gamble along with a highly addictive substance. I see little care & much carelessness. They are not out to save you money they are there to make money off of you first & foremost.
Hollowed out, burnt, singed & vaporized silica wicks invoke scary ?s. I often vape 5 watts on cotton. I see some take wick materials to their limits & beyond (DNA 20 will create many more). Sadly many are uneducated to the possible risks of such power & that intense heat can transform safe material into different dangerous particulates.
Add mesothelioma, pulmonary fibrosis & hosts of lung lodge type ailments to silicosis possibilities, if commons sense is applied. Fact is vapers are guinea pigs.
[VERY IMPORTANT INFO IMO!] Example: "Although toxicity data to date have found these ceramic fibers to be innocuous, recent studies have shown the fibers to devitrify and undergo partial conversion to cristobalite when exposed to elevated temperatures."
Source So the GOV data says its not a risk unless it is if used as vapers do. High temps metamorphisize some seemingly "according to data" safe materials into absolutely known toxic stuff. Yet I have seen silica users use the unheated gov data to falsly feel safe. I dig deep! & hope others will book mark & spread this additional info when vapers use incomplete data in illusion that they are more safe than the full data suggests.
I am very sCAREd for most vapers future, as most use silica type wicks. I am not BSing saying they are my friends & I care for them as such. They are humans & even if I did not like them as individuals, I simply dislike creatures suffering.
The amount of loose unburned silica dust in every atty I disassemble from a stock silca unit has mE now taking them outside & using a painters respirator.
I imagine many do not wash out all types of new attys & that dust is scary! I smoked tobacco pipes for a bit. & every time I bought a new one, the first thing I would do is test the draw tightness dry before packing it. I am glad I feared silica before I vaped THANKS TO THIS THREAD primarily & some others. IMO such a deadly Q to hang over the heads of the vapers is criminal & derilic of uncle sam & his pocket stuffers. I equate them to tobacco corps that suspected @ first, then did secret internal testing found out lung disease & a host of other ailments are side efects of the products, & then hid the info. I have not seen any vendors even place a warning on silica wick products have you? I guess care is only needed if the gov one day forces sellers to make believe they do.
Do I distrust all vendors? No. Do I see that those acting like they are your friend for what they really are? YES clearly they want my money & do not truly care about mE nor my future. Will I still buy vape stuff? Yes, some from ecigvendors while keeping a mindset to save some money, get motivated, & switch to riogrande type vendors, & learn to craft my own personal silver vapeware, because I am a spring E nut that is continually chasing clouds & all wise men & fools such as mE know that clouds (made of vapor) all have silver linings
Cyrus Vap, I enjoy those Dream atty [fatty v2 clone] units here is a link to my past nut E first impressions:
[post=7747277]3mm coiled[/post]
[post=7747293]Spin E coiled[/post]
I am not much of a dripper (although the taste rocks!), as I dislike having to keep adding drops. To get more vape time, I may need to spin some ceramic into the equation.
On topic... No. I made it a easy rebuildable atomizer. You know, solder in pins and springs under the cup for a quick connect.
