Wick materials. Safe vs dangerous.

[roadrash]

@RR,
I don't bother cleaning now, a 75' roll of Kanthal is about 5 buck and a ball of yarn is only a dollar two nighty eight.
So for less than 10 bucks worth of supplies that should last about 300 years,,,, I'm good.

I think we went to different school's together. I haven't heard that in a dogs age.LOL

I got a 75' roll of 36 gauge a couple years ago and believe it or not it's almost empty. I can see a lot of the black spool it's wound on. I did use a buch of it experimenting and on the DC's I made.

Mostly I cleaned the wick cause I'm lazy. LOL

 

[Gummy Bear]

Mostly I cleaned the wick cause I'm lazy. LOL

Hey, that's the same reason I don't clean them.
Your right, we musta went to different school's together.

 

[bilboda]

Now, how I am supposed to justify my HH.357? For the price of one, I could hve 192 frsh atomizers. ... I know, I'll steal the design..

 

[Cyrus Vap]

plan on building a 'cheap line' soon, since I absolutely cannot get SS oxidized despite multiple rounds of water dunks, VG dunks, juice dunks, butane torching and straight up IGNITION lol...i want to use cotton

who's had success with a cotton 'cheap' or real line?

 

[roadrash]

plan on building a 'cheap line' soon, since I absolutely cannot get SS oxidized despite multiple rounds of water dunks, VG dunks, juice dunks, butane torching and straight up IGNITION lol...i want to use cotton

who's had success with a cotton 'cheap' or real line?

For the SS quenching. I used a long carto condom. Put any connector 510/808 without the grommet in the end of the condom. Fill up the condom with juice, Henykind. stand up the ss roll in the hole in the connector. Put a couple drops of juice on the SS and light it like a candle. When it burns up half the juice, Take it out turn it around and burn the other half. Till the juice runs out. You should be good to go.

If you need I will try and upload pics tomorrow

 

[Cyrus Vap]

No it all makes sense, no pics neccessary, but I essentially did that already

I'm judging my steel to be "not oxidized' based on the fact that I get a beep on audible continuity testing....is this wrong?

 

[roadrash]

I dunno. All I have is a old analog meter. Maybe someone with digital speriance can reply.

PS: Is that MR. ED?

 

[Cyrus Vap]

No its a horse I met up in the berkshires while visiting with a friend, can't get over that look on his face when I photographed him LOL

 

[Gummy Bear]

No it all makes sense, no pics neccessary, but I essentially did that already

I'm judging my steel to be "not oxidized' based on the fact that I get a beep on audible continuity testing....is this wrong?

Even if done right you may still get a beep with a good meter.
If you have small butane torch just heat the SS till it is red hot, then quench it in water (3 times) Burning with juice after that is kinda optional. However, I feel I must mention that your not suppose to wipe off the residue after each quenching. (it took a long time to figure out why someone else couldn't get theirs oxidized but that is what they were doing. After oxidizing and wrapping the coil a test firing may require some fiddling with it. If it gets red hot anywhere along the coil with a very short firing time. then just nudge the coil a bit with a needle. If you get a uniform red glow with a medium firing time then you got it right.

If you don't have small butane torch use the burner on the stove. electric or gas. but just the heat from a regular cig. lighter or burning juice may not get hot enough. It's got to glow red hot. (3 or 4 times)

 

[Quigsworth]

No it all makes sense, no pics neccessary, but I essentially did that already

I'm judging my steel to be "not oxidized' based on the fact that I get a beep on audible continuity testing....is this wrong?

I'm not sure I'd rely entirely on a continuity test of the wick (I have to say I've never done that, and after reading your post, probably never will, ignorance is bliss I always say )...from what I read there's also an oxidization that appears on the surface of the kanthal after the first couple fires which should also be added to the equation. I say coil up your wick and try it...I follow this religiously, it's yet to fail for me: Genisis Line - Setup - YouTube

 

[Quigsworth]

But I digress, this thread is not about mesh (tons of threads on that) I swapped out the gauze on my Ody and put in Cheese Cloth...2 cm wide piece by whatever (doesn't matter you cut it to length after) rolled into a 2 mm wick with a 1.5 ohm coil with a fairly spread out wrap (1.5 mm between) on batt voltage...same great taste as gauze, wicks like crazy (can chain it as much as my throat can take), thinner vape but a significant jump in TH (probably the 1.5 coil)...may be swapping this out soon...a little too intense.

 

[DonG]

But I digress, this thread is not about mesh (tons of threads on that) I swapped out the gauze on my Ody and put in Cheese Cloth...2 cm wide piece by whatever (doesn't matter you cut it to length after) rolled into a 2 mm wick with a 1.5 ohm coil with a fairly spread out wrap (1.5 mm between) on batt voltage...same great taste as gauze, wicks like crazy (can chain it as much as my throat can take), thinner vape but a significant jump in TH (probably the 1.5 coil)...may be swapping this out soon...a little too intense.

with one of the goals of modding being to get better performance than what is commercially available, I love it when this happens.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

thank you all, I think you may be onto something with the unreliability of the meter in this regard

I have been using a butane torch, and quenching a minimum of 5 times, no wiping off of crud

My coils light up like a christmas tree, all at once, so maybe they're ok

Will a short fry a battery for sure?

And with this last question, I will stop derailing this thread.

Just so happens that many of the SS heavy hitters happen to be hanging out here, so I couldn't resist

 

[Gummy Bear]

Will a short fry a battery for sure?

All coils are nothing more than a "short". (it's just that some are shorter than others).

I think you are asking if your coil shorts somewhere in the middle. It can cause a hot spot that may not be pleasant to the taste buds.
In some cases it can get hot enough to make the juice ignite. So just test fire it a few times with and with out juice to make sure it is OK. the older it gets the less you need to worry about this.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

fair enough, that makes sense

I had the impression that a "short" would actually fry the battery

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Are not 'protected batteries' protected from shorting out?

 

[Gummy Bear]

Are not 'protected batteries' protected from shorting out?

Yes. that's what the protection is in there for. If the coil (load) is to much for the battery the protection circuits should shut it off. There is some good info in the forum's sticky about batteries.

 

[Gummy Bear]

A note about low ohm coils (inc. dual coils) If you are using the T.I. 04050 booster chip to get VV. a dual coil will kill the chip in less than a month.

 

[Quigsworth]

My coils light up like a christmas tree, all at once, so maybe they're ok

If pulse it and your coil glows an even red from post to post you nailed it...that's an "oh ya!" moment

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Time to rekindle my love affair with mesh then, thank you all!

Back to cotton now