Great news!
How did you implement it as in how many strands did you make the wick out of and did you wrap the coil around it or weave it in ect...
Thanks!
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Great news!
How did you implement it as in how many strands did you make the wick out of and did you wrap the coil around it or weave it in ect...
Thanks!
As a reference size 10 yarn is 1.3mm wick for mark-t atomizers are about 1mm and GG odysseus wick is about 2mm so in an Odysseus i`d just start a full width in the middle,make a loop on left side,pass over,make a loop on right side finish in the middle for a thick wick for low res or high voltage.
960m of that stuff coming my way
960m of that stuff coming my way
I didn't know michaels had bamboo yarn, gonna have to get some tomorrow. Anyone care to post me a link?
Startle: I tried to rewire a stardust with a brand new silicone plug from an unused one. Epic fail. Same scorching silicon flavor. I have no idea what's happening, as I haven't had this problem before. Maybe I'm just having crappy luck, or maybe I had good luck before.
I have some DAP Silicon curing inside empty carto shells as of this afternoon. Tomorrow I'm going to cut and drill them to spec and try again. Getting frustrated!
I tried a carto sock, and some carto filler, no conduction whatsoever. Still have no idea what was meant by "use the paper" lol
Startle: I tried to rewire a stardust with a brand new silicone plug from an unused one. Epic fail. Same scorching silicon flavor. I have no idea what's happening, as I haven't had this problem before. Maybe I'm just having crappy luck, or maybe I had good luck before.
I have some DAP Silicon curing inside empty carto shells as of this afternoon. Tomorrow I'm going to cut and drill them to spec and try again. Getting frustrated!
I tried a carto sock, and some carto filler, no conduction whatsoever. Still have no idea what was meant by "use the paper" lol
Got some meatsneakers, this stuff is really thin. My wife gonna teach me how to braid so ill post up pics. Got some 100% cotton too that one is a bit thicker than ody wick. I will test both
I wicked drip odysseus and it works good. Used the 100% cotton one. Dries out quick, nic hits really hard 18mg got me sick quick. Flavor is extremely good. Clouds are huge and thick. I will try bamboo later. I like cotton so far. juice still freaking out for it to dry and catch on fire. 1.7 ohms on provari at 3.7 volts. Performing really good. No off taste. No weird taste. Just yummy pv4 from prime vaping. Thumbs up on the cotton we will see on the bamboo
Just laid 4 strands together and wrapped a coil - didn't need to tie them together, they worked fine just straight.
Why are people so long resisted the idea of using organics? Only one of a hundred returned to silica accordingly to my statistics. It really gives better output than silica or ss mesh.
It even works fine if you simply roll a sausage.It's an easyest way to make a doughy wick, which transfers liquid very well.
Disposable Pons. Was in use for 2 days until battery off. Wick uder microscope:
EvilGrym - can you take a picture of the condensation using organic wick and post the results?
Here is a pick that meatsneakers posted:
Found this at Michaels in NYC:
The silicon issue must be a long island thing. I don't hear too many others complain about it. I can't get past the awfulness of it myself. I have tried at least 8 of these things and same results no matter what. Hope to have a safe replacement for the plug figured out soon...
After handling the silica wicks and seeing how easily they break apart into tiny pieces I personally would never use that medium again. It's almost like using fiberglass as filler in a carto which I'm sure wouldn't be good...
Does anybody do this?
Once i made a wick from fiberglass. I suffered more than a week after.Does anybody do this?
I would hope not. What haven't you used as a wick lol?
I'm thinking of thinning my CE2 wick even more, I started outpacing it a bit as it got below half 
Cotton seems to be very greedy. It really sucks up juice, it wicks with a vengeance, which leads to gurgling, and flooding of the heating element (though not to the point where I get a leak through the air tube). This incarnation was MUCH better, but as I said, still not perfect.
An example of juice hogging: When I fill a CE2 and regret my choice of juice, I just dump it out, and pretty much ALL of it runs out (minus what's in the wick only, which seems to be about .3 ml or so)
When I tried to empty the cotton wick set up multiple times, I'm missing about .9 ml, I kid you not lol. (these are XLs, 1.8 mls). The wick expands like a gremlin in water, and even holds a thick layer of juice around it, beneath it, etc.
Startle: I too think it is a Long Island thing, or maybe a New York thing, as Charlz was telling me about this when I was still in my vaping diapers What's odd is fresh out of the box I've never had this problem, its only after adjustments or re coiling. The position of the thing must be very finicky, such that 1 mm up or down is a deal breaker.
Thank you for posting that picture, I didn't realize that was a michaels product when I saw it earlier.
WRT to cotton vs. silica: Its still entirely possible that the silica particles in the condensate are NOT small enough to get within the lungs. The lungs as we know have a system of 'tubing' that decrease in caliber from trachea onward, and as you approach "bottom" most things simply ain't getting in. The really scary issue with silicosis is when tiny particles make their way downward, piss off your local immune system chronically --> fibrosis, remodeling, etc. Then you're dead.
And its interesting to consider in this regard that common wisdom seems to be, that vape is too large to reach the alveoli, and most absorption occurs in the nasopharynx. IF this is true (I have no idea what anyone bases this on, wrt to research, etc; or perhaps its simply a theoretic deduction based on the known size of vaporized VG/PG)
That said, if the stuff irritates your 'throat' (which depending on what you mean, may actually be a GI reaction, not a pulmonary issue), don't use it.
Cotton may also be releasing some nasties as well.
**Really ...... about the stardust situation, I have nothing to put on my Echos that I like (except a modded Vision tank)!!! ***
Cotton seems to be very greedy. It really sucks up juice, it wicks with a vengeance, which leads to gurgling, and flooding of the heating element (though not to the point where I get a leak through the air tube). This incarnation was MUCH better, but as I said, still not perfect.
An example of juice hogging: When I fill a CE2 and regret my choice of juice, I just dump it out, and pretty much ALL of it runs out (minus what's in the wick only, which seems to be about .3 ml or so)
When I tried to empty the cotton wick set up multiple times, I'm missing about .9 ml, I kid you not lol. (these are XLs, 1.8 mls). The wick expands like a gremlin in water, and even holds a thick layer of juice around it, beneath it, etc.
Startle: I too think it is a Long Island thing, or maybe a New York thing, as Charlz was telling me about this when I was still in my vaping diapers
What's odd is fresh out of the box I've never had this problem, its only after adjustments or re coiling. The position of the thing must be very finicky, such that 1 mm up or down is a deal breaker. Thank you for posting that picture, I didn't realize that was a michaels product when I saw it earlier.
WRT to cotton vs. silica: Its still entirely possible that the silica particles in the condensate are NOT small enough to get within the lungs. The lungs as we know have a system of 'tubing' that decrease in caliber from trachea onward, and as you approach "bottom" most things simply ain't getting in. The really scary issue with silicosis is when tiny particles make their way downward, piss off your local immune system chronically --> fibrosis, remodeling, etc. Then you're dead.
And its interesting to consider in this regard that common wisdom seems to be, that vape is too large to reach the alveoli, and most absorption occurs in the nasopharynx. IF this is true (I have no idea what anyone bases this on, wrt to research, etc; or perhaps its simply a theoretic deduction based on the known size of vaporized VG/PG)
That said, if the stuff irritates your 'throat' (which depending on what you mean, may actually be a GI reaction, not a pulmonary issue), don't use it.
Cotton may also be releasing some nasties as well.
**Really ...... about the stardust situation, I have nothing to put on my Echos that I like (except a modded Vision tank)!!!
***
This is the kick in the pants I needed to get exited again about building my own attys...!This thread is not about SS mesh. I don't like it, it has it's own problems, so don't post anything about it, please.
Let's talk about wick materials for attys.
Not long ago I found that silica thread gives a needle-like fragments when vaping. Some people made their own independant studyes and found the same problem. The size of needles vary from rather big to small enough to penetrate lungs alveolus and stay there. Big fragments can make an irritating and injuring effect to throat, adam's apple,
vocal ligaments, stomach when swallowed. Small can stay in lungs forever or for too long time irritating alveolus, even to clogging it up. Simpthoms are scratching or pain at throat and/or adam's apple, regular voice dissapearing at the morning.
Here is some fotos:
new wickView attachment 89082
used wickView attachment 89083
vapour condensateView attachment 89081
I found that silica wick may be successfully replaced by a 100% cotton or bamboo yarn. Results are amazing.
Just one thing - you must boil yarn for some time (about 10-30 min) before use to wash away any yarn impregnation.
Yarn wick has a better liquid transfer rate, gives more fine-disperced vapour which transfers more nic to lungs , better taste transfer, less coil clogging.
Yes, if you dried out your wick it will burn, so the only thing it to keep it wet enough.
We made a croud test of organical wicks at various types of attys. Lifetime of a cotton wick varies from 2 days to more than 14, depends on use conditions. But in common is not less than silica wick testers reported.
I've wondered for a long time about the safety of silica... And about using cotton instead of polyfill in cartos...
I made 2 coils a couple months ago, didn't use silica, just nichrome and ss mesh... Got the ohms down, but vapor production was a joke. I was working in a 510 sleeve though... So I'm going to try again, and do the rca mod. I've read this thread, and it seems like the braided 100% cotton gauze is where I should start? Or should I try the cotton or the bamboo yarn first?
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