Wicking with rayon?

[Smoke_too_much]

What I've read about the advantages of wicking with rayon intrigues me to give it a try but something has me puzzled. Folks say you want your rayon tight through the coil and then trim down the tails significantly. I've seen pics of tails that were so trimmed down they were little more than a handful of strands, which they claim is good and necessary and can keep up with feeding the coil juice without any delay. Of course this was in the juice wells of an rda.

My question relates to RTA's with channels or holes that in my experience with cotton must be plugged, not tightly of course but there can't be any gaps or the leaks start. How can this be achieved if you have to trim the rayon tails so much? Is it just a case of not trimming them to such a great extent? Anyone out there with any experience to guide my experimentation?

 

[PaulBHC]

Why not ask in the rayon thread? Plenty of helpful people there. Just tell them which rta you have.

For some you trim a little and for some you trim a lot. Depends on the design of the rta and the coil size.

 

[Two_Bears]

What I've read about the advantages of wicking with rayon intrigues me to give it a try but something has me puzzled. Folks say you want your rayon tight through the coil and then trim down the tails significantly. I've seen pics of tails that were so trimmed down they were little more than a handful of strands, which they claim is good and necessary and can keep up with feeding the coil juice without any delay. Of course this was in the juice wells of an RDA.

My question relates to RTA's with channels or holes that in my experience with cotton must be plugged, not tightly of course but there can't be any gaps or the leaks start. How can this be achieved if you have to trim the rayon tails so much? Is it just a case of not trimming them to such a great extent? Anyone out there with any experience to guide my experimentation?

I ttim the tails about half i'm a Kayfun lite plus,

But with the Silverplay Nano, Goblin Mini, Nebula Wine i only ttim the tails about 15%. If the tails are too thin the deck will flood.

Been using rsyon for ,8-9 months

 

[DebbieNY]

Have a look in this thread: Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2

Tons of useful information and (the best part) photos!

 

[Foggy Road]

Meh, tried it. Didn't find the band-aid taste that it added to my vape to be all that exciting. But to each their own.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Meh, tried it. Didn't find the band-aid taste that it added to my vape to be all that exciting. But to each their own.

I find the 'off taste' of Rayon goes away before long.

 

[Two_Bears]

I find the 'off taste' of Rayon goes away before long.

You're right. The tsste is great after vaping half a Tank 2 ml.

 

[bwh79]

I've seen pics of tails that were so trimmed down they were little more than a handful of strands, which they claim is good and necessary and can keep up with feeding the coil juice without any delay. Of course this was in the juice wells of an RDA.

My question relates to RTA's with channels or holes that in my experience with cotton must be plugged, not tightly of course but there can't be any gaps or the leaks start. How can this be achieved if you have to trim the rayon tails so much? Is it just a case of not trimming them to such a great extent? Anyone out there with any experience to guide my experimentation?

For something like a Subtank Mini RBA, with the big holes in the side of the chamber, I fluff up the rayon in the coil and trim it on a diagonal, downward from the top of the coil like this:

This way, when you slide the cap down over top of the wick, the long fibers on the bottom are long enough to reach down and reach the bottom of the hole, and the short fibers on the top are already right there right next to the top of the hole so they don't need to be very long at all; this allows them to just brush up against it without bunching, folding, or sticking out the side. I've done it this way several times, and never have any leaking or dry hits. The only time I did have issues with those is when I did the oldschool Kayfun method where you slide the chamber on over the long "bunny ears" and then trim and tuck them in. (With an actual Kayfun, sometimes I'll do that, or sometimes I'll trim the tails down real thin and just barely have them brush the deck, like you would on an RDA. Again, never had an issue with leaking or flooding, the juice channels on a Kayfun are small enough they don't actually need to be "plugged" or even covered by the cotton/rayon and, in fact, shouldn't be covered for best performance.)

 

[TruSound]

As earlier suggested, the Rayon thread is where you should be visiting…In the mean time, I've been using the Sally Beauty Rayon for close to 2 years in all of my Kayfun Lite +'s and have no intension of ever touching another piece of cotton, the Rayon benefits are well documented, great flavor with zero off taste in my experience, outlasts cotton by a mile without disintegrating and it wicks like a champ.

Wicking on the snug side is a must and just trim the wick ends to an arrowhead shape with a blunt tip and you'll be good to go.

 

[Hitmetwice]

In the Avocado 24 I have them(just a few strands, very little really) barely visible in the tank below the deck.(if at all)

Of course if you lay the sucker down liquid will fill the deck area.
I vape with a tilting motion anyway and the device sits upright on my desk/table like folks do with most Gennie style set-ups.

I'm pretty new to rayon too but it works great for me. Cheers.

 

[Beeker25]

I think i might have an allergy to rayon. Love its wicking properties but vaping with this fiber is correlated with throat irritation. Not quite ready to say cause and effect.

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[PaulBHC]

Cotton and rayon are both cellulose. Irritation is likely from increased liquid and nic delivered by rayon. Most people have cut their nic percentage by half at first.

 

[Beeker25]

I'm at 3 mg already. But good to know. I like rayon because it is hard to dam up which sometimes happens to me with cotton. And it seems to last longer.

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[Smoke_too_much]

My apologies for not putting this in the correct forum, I didn't know there was a rayon forum. Thanks to those who've commented you've given me most of what I wanted to know and now to find that forum and read some more.
Cheers

 

[Cool_Breeze]

I have no problem with this being posted in a new thread. There used to be many threads with several posts in each. Now there are a few threads and many with thousands of posts. It seems quite reasonable to me to post with a direct question and get responses in a few posts than to read through thousands of posts that may not directly apply to find the few that do apply.

Yes, I know 'search is our friend.' If someone has a question and there is reasonable expectation that someone has a more or less direct answer, why not ask.

This is a general burden with the internet...read way too much of what does not apply to find what does apply.

Rayon is good stuff. It doesn't take long for it to lose its off flavor and perform great.

 

[PaulBHC]

I'm at 3 mg already. But good to know. I like rayon because it is hard to dam up which sometimes happens to me with cotton. And it seems to last longer.

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You might try changing your setup. Rayon flows more liquid, that cools the coil. You end up with more liquid in your mouth throat for the same cotton build. Try a smaller diameter coil = less wick or more watts/volts to vaporize the liquid better. Maybe more air flow as well. Trial and error

 

[f4milytime]

IMO Wicking is much easier with Rayon. I get alot of burnt hit problems with J. Cotton in my rtas. Might be just my technique though.

 

[Alien Traveler]

I've never tried rayon, so I have a question: what about leaking?
In my experience - more cotton is better. I mean 3 mm coil (even if I vape at 9 W) and long tails, so that chamber is mostly filled with cotton. When wicked in this manner, non of my tanks leaks, not at all (Kafun 4, 5, mini 3, Taifun GT2, Serpent Mini, Subtank). Can trimmed tails prevent leaks?

 

[Beeker25]

I haven't correlated leaking with rayon.

 

[Bonskibon]

I bought some rayon and tried it... not for me, but may give it another go at a later time. Options are always good.