Wicking with rayon?

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Bear in mind that Rayon is treated with Carbon Disulfide, a well known toxic chemical and Rayon's molecular structure has been compromised so to call it Cellulose is a stretch. Carbon Disulfide has been linked to numerous diseases, including Cardiovascular disease. Carbon Disulfide is positively one of the most dangerous toxic chemicals on the planet. Once you break the molecular chain of Rayon by burning it, and inhaling it, your bargaining with borrowed time. How much time? The estimate here is about 5 years, because its in extremely small levels, will cause Cardio Vascular Disease. I wont use it if my life depended on it. Carbon disulfide has been long linked to Cardiovascular disease by inhalation, not of the liquid, but from exposure to the toxins that it emits in the air in chemical factories, it is extremely hazardous.

But its been washed you know, so the duds on the Rayon thread babtized it and consecrated it, and some of them act like they are scientists. Preposterous. BTW, I know the Rayon crowd,there's fluoride in your toothpaste, cotton and I suppose other plants are treated with pesticides, agent orange is everywhere else, so presumably this makes Rayon safe? It doesnt, it wont, it cant.

Early in the Rayon "discovery" process, when somebody found some white cotton looking stuff in a pill bottle and decided to wick and inhale it, there were some dissenters here at ECF, but we took too much abuse so we quit. But Christopher Columbus discovered America you know, and the discovery by someone of white fluffy stuff in a pill bottle that was wicked for vape then discovered to be Rayon, was just seen as insightful, and scientific endeavor. Which is really the only thing you need to know about the hard science over there. So here we are. And so it goes.

I would urge you to use regular 100 percent Cotton.
 
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Women put this stuff in their...you-know-what.
If anything dangerous on it could be absorbed, it would have.

Also what Paul said.
All you did was say carbon disulfide 2 or 3 times, flame the rayon thread and say people exposed to high levels in a factory became ill. Just like D-A-AP which has yet to give my popcorn lung.
 
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I'd ddefinitely break into the nude.
I started using rayon before making juice.
I didn't notice how bad the nic I was using tasted till I used nude.
I'd like to try Carolina Xtracts but I can't imagine it's much better than Smooth by Nude. Actually it could give more TH since theres no salts present.
I purchased the Nude Armour for long term so dont really want to break into it for another ten years or so. I have been using Vaper Tek for several years and have been satisfied with the lack of flavor but recently with the rayon I could taste it in a aftertaste sort of way like after you have a cigarette taste. It has since gone away but was strange the way that occurred for one evening on all 4 of my rayon setups at the same time and the next morning it was gone and never returned since. I never got that in 5 years of using silica or cotton. Just interesting.
 
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Having tried rayon for the first time about 3 weeks ago I am now using it exclusively and would be happy to give my stash of JC to anyone who wants it. I wick with rayon exactly like I wicked with JC. I don't try and to fit it in the coil tightly but when I do I don't worry about it because if it will fit it will work. Leaking with my RTA's has been less of a problem than with JC though maybe I'm just getting better at wicking is all. I can't tell if it wicks faster than JC but it certainly wicks as quick and dry hits have not been a problem at all. Finally and this was the selling point for me was that I detect no taste from it. My juices all seemed to taste better, cleaner, more flavorful. I even compared it to JC in the same type atty with the same juice at the same time and the lack of that typical cotton taste was noticeable and in fact I was surprised at how bad the JC actually tastes and how much it impacts the juice taste. Having started on JC I never noticed it before but like anything else now I can't not taste it so definitely no more JC for me.

Glad you like it smoke, that's what all of us found right away as well. :)
 

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I also just started using rayon several weeks ago and mixed on results. The wicking is phenominal compared to cotton and it is true that the tails have to be just right to prevent over or under wicking and you need to really stuff your coils, Thank you all for the tutorials and info. The problem I have run into after getting the wicking sorted out and dialed in is I have had to cut my nic down by 2/3 rds and my flavors in half. Even at this mix I can really taste my nic, sort of an aftertaste, not necessarily while taking a drag off my vape. I am vaping Vapor Tek premium at 3 mg. now and can still taste. Any body else getting this issue >? With cotton my nic was up to 15 mg. and had no taste, but I was using more flavor and maybe thats whats at work here. It just seemed like it tasted better with less flavor in the rayon wicked rtas but maybe higher flavor was really masking the nic.


Yes, I recommend reducing nic and flavoring by 20-30% right off the bat. Most of us find this a benefit. Yes, the flavors and nic, and whatever else is in the juice, are more pronounced and pure, so if you got a bad nic it's gonna taste more bad. Lol if your sensitive to a juice component it's going to be exasperated because your getting more of it straight up.
 
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Yes, I recommend reducing nic and flavoring by 20-30% right off the bat. Most of us find this a benefit. Yes, the flavors and nic, and whatever else is in the juice, are more pronounced and pure, so if you got a bad nic it's gonna taste more bad. Lol if your sensitive to a juice component it's going to be exasperated because your getting more of it straight up.
Thanks Jeremy R but I went back to cotton in all my setups.I guess iI like the flavor good enough and the way Rayon is produced scares me a little with all the chemicals involved I dont know if I trust these manufacturors to really rinse everything well, with all the greed and pennypinching going on in the world. So for now I am happy with good old KGD.
 

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Your loss, you succumbed to the scare tactics.. No big deal, what ever works for you.

Would you know that the chemical he's speaking of may be sprayed on fruits and grains as well before you get them?

Cs2 doesn't need to be rinsed it's a volatile compound and gasses off quickly.

Good luck to you.
 

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Well after reading this thread I decided maybe it is time to take out some of my rayon and try it again. I used to love it before I tried Japanese cotton. Honestly, I don't remember it tasting so horrendous. But to me it tastes absolutely horrible. It wicks really well and I remember it lasting twice as long as cotton, but the chemical taste is really bad. I could still taste it after two tanks...about 12ml of juice. Japanese cotton for me, after about 1ml of juice, becomes tasteless.
 

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