Will self cleaning coils and self wicking coils ever exist?

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IgnorantCig

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I go through so many coils. I get them pretty cheap and I'm not worried about the price, but I do always have to make sure to have enough coils around and on order, to ensure that I don't run out. I'm not really interested in re-wicking my already used coils. It's simpler for me just to throw them out. I use a few different kinds of kangertech coils. I vape some juices that can be considered heavy, so I am aware that this can decrease the life span of a coil by quite a bit.

This got me to thinking, will there ever be such a thing as a self cleaning and self wicking coil in the future sometime, maybe in some years from now? A person would be able to buy a mod that could have coils that take care of themselves, and lasts for ages?

I don't know how, I'm not an engineer, that's for the vape manufacturers to figure out. Perhaps they don't have the incentive, because if somebody ever invented a coil that lasts forever, then the industry would probably lose out on a lot of money, since nobody would have to buy replacements anymore?
 
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Perhaps they don't have the incentive, because if somebody ever invented a coil that lasts forever, then the industry would probably lose out on a lot of money, since nobody would have to buy replacements anymore?
Did you ever have an inkjet printer? What cost more - the printer or the ink cartridges? You answered your own question.
The money is in the consumables baby! :)
 

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May as well be describing rebuilding. You can rebuild a coil on an RDA/RBA/RTA. Some of these rebuilt coils can last months on end with only needing wick material changed out every so often. These kind of systems are more affordable for you in the long haul. Still you need you do some clever shopping regarding the atomizers up front. Have seen a few running $500+, some only $3. For the most part you get what you pay for, buy cheap you get cheap. There is a difference too in cheap and affordable, we each find that for ourselves.

Rather not have self cleaning, self installing gear. I get bad enough to not wind wire, no need to be vaping anyway. As it is I get frustrated w/ putting wicks in. I use kiln treated wicks though and not cotton or ss mesh. Been seeing that cotton wicks easily, or more so than what I do presently. Also seen ss mesh used in RSSTs and see it works better to wick than my way. So, that frustration may dissipate with experience, switching what I'm doing up a bit. Nothing in life that is good is ever easily attainable, if it is, you do not appreciate the satisfaction of it.

Of course, standard disclaimers apply. All of this is a cantankerous fool spouting one of those opinion things. YMMV, take it with a grain of salt if you take it, or leave it and walk on by.
 
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This springs to mind:
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I thread a new wick when needed.

Super easy.
ETA:

Tilemahos new rebuildable part (springomizer)
 
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Very interesting concept! It's ideas like these that move this industry at such a fast pace.

The only thing I can think of is motorized. Otherwise, there would be several knobs, switches, and manual turning of gears to achieve something self-x-ing. That being said, the battery life on an 18650 mod would be even worse than it is now (unless it is a quad-18650 at 12,000 mAh)

You would still need to load materials into the device, and those would have to be pre-cut down to a usable size, and the kanthal would need to be straightened (to a point)...

Are we talking about a machine in the living room that one could use during a weekend? Or a portable mod that would complete this task? ;)
 

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I use silica, dry burn every week or two, maybe replace the setup once a month.

Think I spent 20 bucks total in 2015 for a 100 ft roll of wire and 30 ft of wick.

You use gear specifically designed to eat consumables at a high rate you have to expect to replace stuff often.
Kanger doesnt make payroll if they make stuff that actually lasts. And I know chinas factories love love love the subohm clearo fad. The more some things become plug and play,(big ol sub coils), the more expensive the "disposable" supplies become.
 
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I jumped on the rebuildable train over a year ago and have never regretted it.

I don't particularly like building coils, but I only have to make them every few months or more. Coils are dry-burned good as new with each wick change. Yeah, I need to re-wick every 3 - 4 days, but that takes less time and effort than replacing a coil head in a tank. I can change flavors on a whim. And its a whole lot CHEAPER to boot. A lifetime supply (literally) of Rayon cellucotton is about $10. A couple years supply of Kanthal wire is about $6. My rebuildable dripper setup tastes way better and makes more vapor than any tank on the market.
 
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Will self cleaning coils and self wicking coils ever exist?


Yes, one day they will exist. You'll (well, not you. All of us will be long dead) come in off the balcony where you live in a floating city (having just watched the hover cars sail across the sunset). You'll order outloud and a whiskey will appear on the table next to your reading chair where you enjoy your vape, powered by a battery with a half life of 5M years. When you are done, you'll press a button on your mod and it will go into "refresh" cycle and in the morning it will have cleaned the coil and replaced the wicking.
 

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Yes, one day they will exist. You'll (well, not you. All of us will be long dead) come in off the balcony where you live in a floating city (having just watched the hover cars sail across the sunset). You'll order outloud and a whiskey will appear on the table next to your reading chair where you enjoy your vape, powered by a battery with a half life of 5M years. When you are done, you'll press a button on your mod and it will go into "refresh" cycle and in the morning it will have cleaned the coil and replaced the wicking.

You might be right that we'll all be dead by that time, but if you would have told me a few decades ago that we'd all be walking around with supercomputers in our pockets (iPhones and other mobile phones) and that we'd no longer have to rent VHS cassettes, and that we could access thousands of movies and songs online with great quality without ever leaving the house, then I wouldn't have believed that, yet here we are.

I'm not asking for a Transporter unit from Star Trek here, I think that self cleaning coils could happen in our lifetimes, but maybe I'm just being an optimist.:)
 

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I'm not asking for a Transporter unit from Star Trek here, I think that self cleaning coils could happen in our lifetimes, but maybe I'm just being an optimist.:)

Any coil can be dry-burned clean by the user. The problem with factory-made coils for tanks is that they generally have a combustable (cotton) wick which would become ruined (and even be dangerous) if dry-burned. Early clearomizer tanks used silica as the wick (not combustable), but for all intents and purposes silica was not a great flavor carrier and was quickly replaced by some form of cotton wick.

Perhaps we should focus on a better wick material (non-combustable and great flavor capability) instead of worrying about coils.
 

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if you would have told me a few decades ago that we'd all be walking around with supercomputers in our pockets (iPhones and other mobile phones) and that we'd no longer have to rent VHS cassettes, and that we could access thousands of movies and songs online with great quality without ever leaving the house, then I wouldn't have believed that, yet here we are.
Remember those AT&T commercials from ~20 years ago showing off "future tech" like video chat and on-demand television programming? It all seemed so "far out, man" at the time, yet now we take those things for granted. Makes you wonder where we'll be in another 20 years...
 
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You might be right that we'll all be dead by that time, but if you would have told me a few decades ago that we'd all be walking around with supercomputers in our pockets (iPhones and other mobile phones) and that we'd no longer have to rent VHS cassettes, and that we could access thousands of movies and songs online with great quality without ever leaving the house, then I wouldn't have believed that, yet here we are.

I'm not asking for a Transporter unit from Star Trek here, I think that self cleaning coils could happen in our lifetimes, but maybe I'm just being an optimist.:)

Agreed but all those things became things in mass demand. I would imagine self cleaning coils are way down on the list of "things to do" since new coils are cheap, cleaning and rewicking takes only minutes. I see the benefit but I don't see an effort to create the technology to make it easier. I'd bet they come up with a coil and wick that never needs replacing first.
 

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Perhaps we should focus on a better wick material (non-combustable and great flavor capability) instead of worrying about coils.

Pick me! Pick me! I know this one! ;)

(This must be how a Jehovah's Witness feels like when they see someone actually looking for reading material. :D)

... reminds me I haven't filled my monthly quota of Preaching the Gospel Of Mesh. Mesh is good. Mesh is great.

(We've probably had this discussion a couple times already. I'm just clowning around.)
 
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