wire wool?
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Pete--I here what you are saying. IF you take a good look at the build up under a 10x scope, you can actually see that the coil in and if itself is not smooth and linear. It has bumps and ridges that occur due to the expantion and contration of the heat. I have scraped this residue off and can tell you with pretty much certainty that the build up is in fact e-liquid residue. If you put a flame to it--it does not have the plastic smell that the cartridge core polyester material would have. It is a hard carbon build up that you can in fact shatter by heating and then throwing the coil into cold water. I will again take another look at your cartridge core material build up this weekend as you may be on to the fact that this carbon build up is in fact a comination of residual and core material. I will report back--Thanks--Sun
reminds me of my old mum....lolNo, I'm much better looking than that
The thing is sun if you remove any heating element from any kind of boiler or a kettle or a steam iron.....the liquid will only ever leave a reasonably even coating, all the atomizer coils I have looked at have had large lumpy bits on them ....and that simply shouldn't happen if it was 'only' liquid.
Pete--You have a good theory as the residue should cover the coil in a consistant way. I will try this. Using one atomizer with just dripping and the other with the cartridges and compare as their may well be merit to your theory of the case. Do you actually think the polyester is literally dripping from the core? and if that is the case, would we not be able to see it on the Bridge?--Just trying to get your input here Pete--Thanks--Sun
Under a magnifying glass I have been able to see minute threads of the polyester on the bridge and on one of my coils and I am quite sure I could just about see a little bit of it poking out of a black lump.......all I can say is that if it 'isn't' the cart material.....e-liquid has some pretty strange properties if it can form lumps when being vaporized.
Pete--Thanks for this report. It is the first of its kind and we will be sure to check it out this weekend--One has to wonder when you look at the core and see that it has melted and is countersunk---Where did it go????--So your theory has merit--Terraphon and I will report --Thanks again Pete---Sun
Ok sun that's great ....the more minds on it the better.
Oh just to report ...the wire wool hasn't been working well for the past hour and I think it's because of the same problems reported in the older thread that kate pointed out to me...so I have gone back to a normal cart.
pics of a roughly one week old atomizer.. its simply burnt on e liquid.. but theorize away its what forums are for.. no fibre gets melted.. it looks much like my old chip pan used to look after much use and little cleaning.. pretty yucky.. he he
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Trog--Was it not you who theorized that the mesh gives way overtime and will no longer wick the e-liquid and that the coil was not so much the culpert?Sun
I think it does, Since before I received my hybrid I was wondering about the air flow and wicking process. I mean, if you're drawing against the flow or liquid, wouldn't it make it trickier for it to wick?
What I've noticed is after a draw, I do hear a suction type noise from the atomizer and a sort of a gurgle too. I was likely using too much liquid when gurgling was happening, but the sound was apparent. I even placed my tongue over the mouthpiece hole after a draw, and felt a slight suction. I don't know what mechanism or physics causes this, but I think this suction helps the atomizer draw fluid from the cart into it. And, at the same time is able to tug loosely-placed and well-aligned fibres into the atomizer.
Thats a nasty looking atomizer...
I had some of that wire mesh from a cold e-cigar, I made a ball of it just big enough to fit into the end of a cart, and I jammed it on top of the regular filler in the cart. I have been using it for about two hours now, and it is wicking much better than it was before I did that. That was a great idea, Sun & Pete!
I had some of that wire mesh from a cold e-cigar, I made a ball of it just big enough to fit into the end of a cart, and I jammed it on top of the regular filler in the cart. I have been using it for about two hours now, and it is wicking much better than it was before I did that. That was a great idea, Sun & Pete!
Tribble--Glad to hear it is working out and thanks for the report--that mesh is something that we can not identify--but since it comes out of the atomizer--we sure know it wicks well--Thanks again---Sun
I wonder if it will wear out? If you do find the source of that mesh, that would be some good stuff to stock up on too.
Hi Trog,
Perhaps a stupid question (as I don't know much about such things
), but if what you say is true, why is it that carts with quite tightly packed tissue work less well than ones that are more loosely packed with tissue ?Hubby and I have both had problems with the tightly packed type carts. They seem to be empty (ie; the atomizer seems to be running dry) when there is actually still quite a bit of liquid in there. It seems harder to vape these dry.
Thanx for any light you could shed on this matter !
Cheers,
Silver
Silver--If the polyester core is packed to tight, the e-liquid will not gravitate down to the mess wick bridge in the atomizer. To loose and the e-liquid will flood the atomizer. The core needs to be just the right density for the intended purpose of acting as a reservoir---Sun
no it was not me.. i have pretty much always said the coil or the small wick piece in the center of the coil...was the culprit
it simply loses its ability to absorb the small amount of liquid the heater wire needs to vaporize.. it still works but not so well.. it does this fairly quickly..
after a while theorizing has to stop and some "facts" emerge... the problem with this place is they are never allowed to.. "facts" are boring.. no need for a million posts a day about the odd boring "fact"... he he he
trog
I just want to say that ever since I jammed that balled up wire mesh in my cart, my e-cigar has been rockin'!!! I wish I had been clued into this a lot earlier.
The Evo coil seems to be wound around some sort of 'hard' ceramic type of material rather than a wicking 'rope' wich the penstyles coils are wound around....so that makes me wonder if the wicking ability of the 'rope' makes much difference.
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