Wizard Labs is still down!! Any other suggestions?

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Bosco

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Got my pacakge today - 2x500ml nic base ordered on the 6th. It did take a while but WL is really cheap for the quality of nic . .and the price on flavors is the best I can find. As soon as they open up again I plan to order another 500ml and some more flavors.

I'm in the process of comparing a bunch of nic bases - so far, nothing touches WL for the price. I just mixed up some XTreme vaping nic - highly regard but almost twice as expensive as WL. Well . .I haven't tasted it yet but it *smells* very strong compared to WL. From the smell, anyway, it doesn't seem like I'll prefer it to WL.
 

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Do you really think they don't want to be selling? After all, they are in business to sell. They have employees to pay, rent to pay, other over heads. Moving can be a genuine task. Unrelated, but I helped a law firm relocate. They went behind schedule. At roughly $150/hr missed for 2 weeks, they were staying up nights, believe me. One poor guy looked like he hadn't slept in a month.

Yes they are awesome but they did know about the pending FDA and the Chinese New year does come every year. I don't think it was well planned out move but that's just my opinion. As it gets closer to April, I would figure they will fall even more behind.
 

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Do you really think they don't want to be selling? After all, they are in business to sell. They have employees to pay, rent to pay, other over heads. Moving can be a genuine task. Unrelated, but I helped a law firm relocate. They went behind schedule. At roughly $150/hr missed for 2 weeks, they were staying up nights, believe me. One poor guy looked like he hadn't slept in a month.

yep, and as for timing, I wonder when their lease was up? Or any number of other factors that could influence the timing.
 

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All I was saying was training of employees could have been done weeks earlier. I know that cost money but doesn't it cost money for not being able to sell, losing business that could have been yours? I can see being out of nic, but flavor on top of that. I wasn't trying to bash them, all I was saying is it doesn't look like a well planned move to me. In my profession if we fall behind in service we work ot. My hours get extended. I won't ask of others that I won't do.
 

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No offense intended, but maybe you should be running their business for them.

All I was saying was training of employees could have been done weeks earlier. I know that cost money but doesn't it cost money for not being able to sell, losing business that could have been yours? I can see being out of nic, but flavor on top of that. I wasn't trying to bash them, all I was saying is it doesn't look like a well planned move to me. In my profession if we fall behind in service we work ot. My hours get extended. I won't ask of others that I won't do.
 

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No offense intended, but maybe you should be running their business for them.

Never said I wanted to run their business, but at the same time I am entitled to my opinion as you are also. All I said in the beginning was I didn't think their move was very well planned out.
 

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What I was attempting to convey in my earlier post is that even allegedly intelligent people ran into problems while relocating. They didn't even move to a different city, merely across town. BTW, I've helped more than one business move. I moved materials, and set up their computer systems, and phone lines. It was their responsibilities to take care of the other problems.

Never said I wanted to run their business, but at the same time I am entitled to my opinion as you are also. All I said in the beginning was I didn't think their move was very well planned out.
 

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Quit beating around the bush, lol :)

Your defending them, we see that and we agree but also it must be agreed that if possible a better time or coordination could have taken place. At least that is what I'm saying. I'm not going to hold it against them and I do feel for them having these growing pains but such is the part of growing a business and with known variables on the line planning is paramount.

Enough of this walking on eggshells and say what you mean. :D
 

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The best laid plans of mice and men.

Quit beating around the bush, lol :)

Your defending them, we see that and we agree but also it must be agreed that if possible a better time or coordination could have taken place. At least that is what I'm saying. I'm not going to hold it against them and I do feel for them having these growing pains but such is the part of growing a business and with known variables on the line planning is paramount.

Enough of this walking on eggshells and say what you mean. :D
 

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Yes, i'm sure some of you have helped a business relocate, but have you helped a chemistry lab relocate? its really not even in the same ballpark, imo. Also, it occurs to me that they may not be updating the website intentionally in order to catch up on the backlog, or unintentionally due to the backlog. Also, its not like they are the only vape website to be out of all kinds of things right now. vaping is growing by leaps and bounds and most of the vendors, including my local b&ms, are having a hard time keeping up with demand. Yes, I am unashamedly defending WL. God help me, I don't even know why. This is the first time I've ordered from them, so its not like I'm a loyal customer. I just don't understand why there is so much bellyaching when there are other diy websites out there if you are in need and unwilling to wait. just saying....
 

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When i called WL mid week wensday i believe, my order was processed on the 12 i was told on the 20th that they had just finished shipping order number 12343 or something close to that number my order number is 12586, the very nice lady on the phone said she was very sorry but it would more then likely be at least another 2 weeks or so before they even got to my order number... I believe its just been a cumulative effect going on for them, the move coinciding with possible new fda regulations, people getting extra income from tax time, and people panicking slightly. I doubt chinese new year is play much of a part in this scenario as they probalby are using the fact that they are out of nicotine as an excuse to catch up on the backlog. My two cents anyways.... its still very frusterating however grrrrr.
 

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You guys are just beating a dead horse over and over. First of all its been posted all over the front page of their website for the past two months that their would be delays galore. So in that regard this is no massive shocker and you placed your orders anyways.

If you don't want to wait by all means buy elsewhere and leave the Wizard to me ( but i highly doubt you will find excellent taste at such a rock bottom price---nobody else comes close even on sale) I strayed previously and regretted it when the nic a competitor sent me turned dark orange inside of a month---never happened before I suspect it was old.

Bottom line to me its worth the wait financially and taste wise. Its not like I think they are sitting there giggling and eating bon bons while we wait or that they intended this to happen. Their will be more delays I am sure---if you have no tolerance for delays its best to shop around.
 
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