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tiburonfirst

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Indulgence has a side-mounted switch which is a more convenient.You have to push the PV against teeth/lips to use a bottom switch (why did they come with this idea anyway?).

whatever gave you that idea???? i very efficiently dryburned one of my e2s with the sp. and, believe me, it never got within 2 ft of my lips
the sp has a recessed bottom button which makes it less prone to accidental firing in contrast to side buttons - that's only important if there is no separate turn-off switch
 

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Can anyone compare this SP2 to the Indulgence ($60)? By the time you buy the correct batteries, charger etc, the price is almost the same: BUT you get various threaded caps with the Indulgence.
Any thoughts?

Sp2 comes with a thermo tube, and so you can use a 17670 in the thermo which is 3.7v and a very nice way to vape. Goodprophets sells adapters for cheap.

The charger doesn't need to be replaced. Only 2 protected batts are required to 'fix' the kit, and that's like $6-10. Depending on the kinda batts u get, it may require you to file 1-2 mm off the brass pin in the top cap to get the endcaps to fit flush, but it's no big deal either way.

The 17670 big bat is 1600mah. The indulgence can use 18350s, and 18650s for $20 more.

I use the thermo tube at 3.7v and get great performance.
 

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I had the same concern about the bottom switch, but I like it..it feels very natural and now when I use my e-power I'm putting my finger on the bottom trying to find the switch duh...The nice thing is I don't have to use the slide on switch cover and it's real hard to accidentally fire these things. I need to try some different juices with the 6v though that thing is making me cough..sheesh
 

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I had the same concern about the bottom switch, but I like it..it feels very natural and now when I use my e-power I'm putting my finger on the bottom trying to find the switch duh...The nice thing is I don't have to use the slide on switch cover and it's real hard to accidentally fire these things. I need to try some different juices with the 6v though that thing is making me cough..sheesh
As far as the juice goes you can try diluting it with pg/vg or just plain vg from walmart. I mix my own but use a lot less flavor than for an Ego type. A higher voltage and larger battery means you are vaporizing more juice. Thus more flavor, hit, nicotine and smoke. You may also want to use a higher ohm atty or carto,
 

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Ok, I just want to make sure I have this correct,

Small tube,
1-16340 3.7v

Large Tube,
2-16340's 3.7v for 7.4v (HOT!)
2-16340's at 3.0v for 6.0v (Warm)
1=17670 at 3.7v

Did I miss any? I am new to these lithium batteries.

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I'd personally define 6v and 7.4v as Hot and Hotter. When you get that high you'll want to use a HV atomizer or cartomizer. I think the new dual coil cartos work well at HV also.

If you use a standard resistance atty at those high voltages it's not going to last very long and likey heat up so much it'll be burning the juice.
 

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Put a LR801 atty on today with a 801 drip tip using 3.7v wow what a difference heats more liquid than normal though finding myself using 5 drops as opposed to the 3 I normally use on a 510 huge clouds though

also using 2 3.0 in the tube with a hv6v 510 atty dripping using 100%vg 24mg wow warm thick clouds also using more liquid but better flavor much less throat hit which is fine for my particular way of vapin still getting my nico so it's all good!!
 

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Here's a really dumb question for you guys ..When I use the 801-510 adapter and then use a dual coil carto, I find that I have to blow into it every 4 or 5 hits or it seems to quit working (sorry I'm not explaining that well) it seems to have something to do with the adapter because if I use the 801 atty with the cart that ships with it I don't have that problem. I find dripping a pita because I can't do it when I'm driving etc. and I don't like the cartridges that come with the 801 atty. Is there some way I can use dual coil cartos without that adapter? Or is there a similar carto I can get that is threaded for the 801? TIA
 

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@ pixiedust,

Nothing available yet for 801 threads native yet. It sounds like your cartos can't wick fast enough (thick juice??) or you're hitting it enough that it's over heating, can't keep up with demand??
The dual coil cartos don't seem to burn the filler like others, but the coils still need a steady supply of juice to vaporize. :)
 

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Ok, that makes sense, but I was more concerned about the battery formulations. :) Just was trying to figure out what batteries to buy depending on what you wanted. What worked, and what didn't.

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One thing you didn't include is C ratings for batteries. How much current your battery can put out is important for performance.

Normal 3.7v vaping on the sparkplug is better with the AW IMR batteries because they are high drain batteries. They can put out more amps, so they heat up the atty much better. Its a difference you can notice when compared to the cheap batteries that come with the kit. The batteries stay cooler as well, and IMR batteries will last longer as long as you take care not to overdrain them.

The 17670 battery from AW is big enough to put out enough amperage to drive the atty at 3.7v as well. The AW 17670 is protected, and more user friendly because of that fact.

6v and 7.4v seem like a waste of time to me.

People talk about the superiority of passthroughs... and really I think its more about the current the passthrough can put out, rather than the voltage they are operating at.

16340 Li-ion batteries are still to small to put out enough current to drive an atomizer well.... high drain versions (which are li-mn) and good LiFePo batteries are better batteries in that size to vape off.
 

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One thing you didn't include is C ratings for batteries. How much current your battery can put out is important for performance.

Normal 3.7v vaping on the sparkplug is better with the AW IMR batteries because they are high drain batteries. They can put out more amps, so they heat up the atty much better. Its a difference you can notice when compared to the cheap batteries that come with the kit. The batteries stay cooler as well, and IMR batteries will last longer as long as you take care not to overdrain them.

The 17670 battery from AW is big enough to put out enough amperage to drive the atty at 3.7v as well. The AW 17670 is protected, and more user friendly because of that fact.

6v and 7.4v seem like a waste of time to me.

People talk about the superiority of passthroughs... and really I think its more about the current the passthrough can put out, rather than the voltage they are operating at.

16340 Li-ion batteries are still to small to put out enough current to drive an atomizer well.... high drain versions (which are li-mn) and good LiFePo batteries are better batteries in that size to vape off.
I agree it's not the volts but the watts that matters the most. I'm not likely to buy any battery unless I know the C rating.
A 16340 Li-ion protected battery won't give you the power. However If there is a reason for a smaller battery an AW IMR 16340 550 mAH at 8C is more than adequate but won't last as long. Partly because you will be using more power and draining it faster and because it has a lower power density. Not as low as it appears because most of the other batteries exaggerate the mAH
 

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@ pixiedust,

Nothing available yet for 801 threads native yet. It sounds like your cartos can't wick fast enough (thick juice??) or you're hitting it enough that it's over heating, can't keep up with demand??
The dual coil cartos don't seem to burn the filler like others, but the coils still need a steady supply of juice to vaporize. :)
It's not thick juice, it's 80/20; so I must be vaping too much..guess I need to slow down & thanks
 
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