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My neighbor, with one lung lost from lung cancer a decade ago, just got out of the hospital after five weeks on the edge of having a blood clot turn loose. Weak, he limped across the road to greet me and the first thing out of his mouth was, "You got anything to smoke?" Now, that's addiction. He knows I use e-cigs all day, but I noted that he didn't ask, "You got an e-cig I could vape?" He's rejected my attempts to get him to try one.

Just reading about lung cancer horror stories freaks me out so bad that it helps control my analog cravings TBH.

I've read this article on nicotine which somewhat helps put my mind at ease with vaping....

treatobacco - Nicotine per se is not a substantial cause of canc
 

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This thread gets linked to a lot [Thanks Kate!]. It's extremely valuable info and to me underscores 2 things:

1) By and large, we don't know what we are doing when we pick up e-smoking. Standards are sparse [or non-existent], there are wide variations in individuals regarding nicotine tolerance and body chemistry, and personal experimentation is the only way to calibrate your ideal e-smoking experience. Be prepared, because the initial experience *can* involve some pretty nifty side effects, and sometimes it can take a few tries to find what works for you.

2) The people on this forum do care about each other and honestly do want to see each other succeed in this new pursuit, whether that means a complete switch to e-smoking or just a reduction of analog cigarette intake. Our recent shutdown spotlighted the community we've developed.


**** But what I really want to know is: ****

Did Jimmy ever get his 14MG Juice?!?
 

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well I am having a small bit of bother at the moment!!!

I will prob get a bottle of 14MG coffee, if this is too strong is it pretty easy to dilute it then??

Hi everyone. I am a newbie to this forum and felt obliged to add my contribution to this thread after having had a similar experience to Jimmy’s when vaping electronic cigarettes for the first time. I am very concerned about it and would like to find out what went wrong, because I REALLY want to give up old style cigs and the electronic cigs seem to me to be the most attractive way to do this. Firstly, let me say what a great forum this is – it is a real community of people who respect each other’s opinion and want to share their experiences in an informative way. Bravo!

OK, here is my story:

Lat week I bought 2 Super Electric Cigarette starter kits (model RN4081) and like Jimmy I bought some of Totally Wicked’s 36 mg e-liquid – actually it was 5 bottles of it in various flavours. Unlike Jimmy I was used to smoking much stronger cigarettes, which makes me doubt that an OD of nicotine was the cause of this problem. I smoked about 40 hand made rollies a day, so my body was definitely already used to a high nicotine content.

I picked a day to give up smoking (and start vaping) and prepared three cartridges with 3 flavours: Tobacco, Marlboro and Virginia (I chose the last one specifically because that is the tobacco I smoke). During the day I had no more than 6-7 good puffs on each cartridge and I have to say it was the easiest time I have ever had giving up smoking because I was not even tempted to have a real cigarette. However, what followed was probably one of the worst experiences I have ever had. By the evening I had a really bad headache accompanied by the following symptoms:

1. Nausea (although I actually didn’t vomit)
2. A spaced out feeling
3. Memory loss (I couldn’t remember how to use my computer keyboard properly, so my e-mails were full of typos, and I forgot basic keyboard shortcuts like save, copy, paste, etc)
4. Vertigo (I could not do anything without losing my balance)
5. Difficulty in focusing
6. Bad taste in mouth (also, a lot of things I ate or drink tasted only of e-liquid, particularly wine and beer. Curiously, olives tasted of nothing but that!)

The whole experience was extremely unpleasant and frightening so I stopped vaping the e-cigs that same evening. After stopping the e-cigs the symptoms listed above waned gradually, but even now, five days later, they are all still there, although thankfully in much milder form.

I have no idea what happened here. Like I said, I do not think it was an over dosing of nicotine because I didn’t vape much and I am already a heavy smoker. Other possible causes worth considering are:

1. I am allergic to PG or some other ingredient in the e-liquid
2. I had a bad batch of e-liquid
3. Primer on the atomizer (I have read elsewhere that this is a possible cause of other people’s bad experiences with e-cigs)
4. Lead solder in the atomizer. Someone on this forum (Sun Vaporer) has already tested several atomizers (although not mine, which is RN4081) and found no lead, but I ask the question because many of the symptoms I had are similar to lead poisoning. Anyone done any tests on the RN4081?

By telling you my story I am not trying to be alarmist because it seems most people are able to vape e-cigs with no ill effect, but, nonetheless, I am worried about what has happened to me and to Jimmy, and to a few other people. As I’m sure you all agree, e-cigarettes are a great idea and we all want to be able to use them safely.

Hey, Jimmy! Are you out there? I hope you are better now and please let us know how you got on with vaping the 14 mg juice. We all want to know ☺
 
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