Howdy folks,
I posted the below in a different thread. The conversation was about one employee going to a manager about someone vaping at their desk. It will only be seen by a few, so I brought it here and started this thread for your input.
What are your opinions on stealth vaping?
My posting in the other thread:
Howdy folks,
I have come back to this thread numerous times today debating on posting or not. Although a lot of folks (based on the posts here) are probably not gonna like my answer.
I'm 57, retired, and have been a manager of one sort or another most of my working life.
It would have been nice if the mailboy would have confronted you directly, but it's not in the least bit surprising that he went directly to the manager, and berating him because he did is.....how should I put this....as immature as him going to the manager.
For him, the right thing to do would have been to speak to you directly (but 4 outta 5 times it ain't gonna happen). The right thing for you to have done would have been to go to your manager before any of this happened. Go prepared, provide the information about what you want to do, why it is not hazardous to anyone around you, show you have spoken to those around your seating area and they don't mind, and that your productivity will increase due to less time spent away from your desk having a smoke/vape. The old saying "it's easier to say you're sorry than to ask permission", is a wonderful saying, but in our case it's more harmful than good.
Sneaking around, as in some of the other posts here (not the OP's), just screams that you are doing something wrong, doing something that will harm others or doing something illegal. Why would you want to stigmatize vaping with that kinda tag? It's gonna take awhile before vaper's and vaping are accepted as being relatively harmless....if ever. We're bucking a system, one that screams that we are different and we are.....weak, evil, ignorant, killers, wrong, etc, etc. Take your pick of which one of those you've heard in the past...there's an endless list out there of nasty pronouns to describe us. Sneaking around ain't changing any of that...and getting caught sneaking around only reinforces those opinions.
I vape constantly, all day, all of my waking hours. I presently do not vape in the same places I was not allowed to smoke. I do, however, seek out a manager, owner, or person in charge to ask if I can vape. Most recently, a small, non franchise coffee shop has given me permission to vape in their shop, as long as others are not turned off by it. So far, no complaints, just questions. Now I go there instead of Starbucks. One Walmart manager has said it's ok to vape while I'm in Walmart, unless someone complains, so I vape in Walmart, I just do it in an empty isle, not around anyone. Home Depot has said no freakin way, don't vape in MY STORE.
Hiding and sneaking wont solve our problems, asking wont solve all of them, but it maybe a start.
Big Mac
I posted the below in a different thread. The conversation was about one employee going to a manager about someone vaping at their desk. It will only be seen by a few, so I brought it here and started this thread for your input.
What are your opinions on stealth vaping?
My posting in the other thread:
Howdy folks,
I have come back to this thread numerous times today debating on posting or not. Although a lot of folks (based on the posts here) are probably not gonna like my answer.
I'm 57, retired, and have been a manager of one sort or another most of my working life.
It would have been nice if the mailboy would have confronted you directly, but it's not in the least bit surprising that he went directly to the manager, and berating him because he did is.....how should I put this....as immature as him going to the manager.
For him, the right thing to do would have been to speak to you directly (but 4 outta 5 times it ain't gonna happen). The right thing for you to have done would have been to go to your manager before any of this happened. Go prepared, provide the information about what you want to do, why it is not hazardous to anyone around you, show you have spoken to those around your seating area and they don't mind, and that your productivity will increase due to less time spent away from your desk having a smoke/vape. The old saying "it's easier to say you're sorry than to ask permission", is a wonderful saying, but in our case it's more harmful than good.
Sneaking around, as in some of the other posts here (not the OP's), just screams that you are doing something wrong, doing something that will harm others or doing something illegal. Why would you want to stigmatize vaping with that kinda tag? It's gonna take awhile before vaper's and vaping are accepted as being relatively harmless....if ever. We're bucking a system, one that screams that we are different and we are.....weak, evil, ignorant, killers, wrong, etc, etc. Take your pick of which one of those you've heard in the past...there's an endless list out there of nasty pronouns to describe us. Sneaking around ain't changing any of that...and getting caught sneaking around only reinforces those opinions.
I vape constantly, all day, all of my waking hours. I presently do not vape in the same places I was not allowed to smoke. I do, however, seek out a manager, owner, or person in charge to ask if I can vape. Most recently, a small, non franchise coffee shop has given me permission to vape in their shop, as long as others are not turned off by it. So far, no complaints, just questions. Now I go there instead of Starbucks. One Walmart manager has said it's ok to vape while I'm in Walmart, unless someone complains, so I vape in Walmart, I just do it in an empty isle, not around anyone. Home Depot has said no freakin way, don't vape in MY STORE.
Hiding and sneaking wont solve our problems, asking wont solve all of them, but it maybe a start.
Big Mac
