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Wrinkles Above Lips From Vaping :(
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No no -- put the glitter where you want other eyes to GO, which means AWAY from the wrinkles!
Ugh, glittery boobs AGAIN? Well, I guess it's back to the 80s for me...(going off to buy glitter)
Hardly. Just remember that no matter what 'flaws' you see in yourself, now or even over the next 50 years, you are incredibly beautiful and lucky to be so. I always think of that poor woman who went to the aid of her friend who was getting attacked by a pet chimpanzee, and that monkey ate this woman's face off. She nearly died and lost her eyes, nose and, yes, entire face. And she had been quite beautiful beforehand, not just inside, but outside too. She was on Oprah at one point before she had a face transplant. Of course that only made her look less gruesome but it couldn't make her look anywhere near normal, or return her eyesight. Then there are people with genetic disfigurations who go through life being made fun of and whatnot. So if we simply look normal -- any of us -- we already have a boatload to be thankful for. And no matter what flaws you might see as you grow wiser and better any one of a number of people would gladly change places with you in a second and worship every beautiful line. Just sayin'... beauty is relative. And you have plenty of it and always will.
Charla Nash, I have heard of her. Thank you for this brilliant and thoughtful reminder. Yes, it is true, anyone with a normal within general conventions face really has no right to complain about the natural aging process. We should remember how lucky we are when we hear stories like Charla's. Thank you so very much for that.
It's totally natural and normal for us to notice our own aging process. But a little perspective can go a long way if we get carried away with ourselves. (Not that you have at all.)
And I agree vaping from the side of your mouth will eliminate vaping as an on-going contributor, if it ever was. You don't need a flat tip to keep your lips flat (unpuckered) when vaping. OTOH I sleep on my side, which totally makes my lips smash together, so ... life is life. And I'm lucky my complaints are few.
Hillarious... Butters always taking the chance to make us laugh... Seriously, a smaller driptip will help too... I got myself these and they're tiny... hardly any tensing from the lips... Found 16 jade driptips at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
My problem is chapped lips. Specially in cold weather with SS or aluminum driptips. As beautiful as they might seem, they chap my lips seriously. Nothing a little Carmex can't fix...
My problem is chapped lips. Specially in cold weather with SS or aluminum driptips. As beautiful as they might seem, they chap my lips seriously. Nothing a little Carmex can't fix...
Being a woman of a certain age, I can tell you that years and years of smoking analogs is what put the wrinkles above the lip, they just had no showed up yet at 40-ish.
but now that your are "pursing" again to vape off a drip tip,.....ANY repetitious movement of your face or lips will tend to make wrinkles once your skin is aging and losing elasticity.
(frowning, squinting, etc.)
Fact of life.
5+ years you aged in that time, and your skin is losing elasticity very fast after 40.
Best thing is to find the largest diameter drip tip so that you are not closing your lips over something smallish.
Also, vaseline over that area above lips at night, and plenty of hydration in form of drinking lots of water.
But to be honest, once aging begins and skin looses elasticity, any repetitive thing is gonna show up........so you really can't stop it from happening if you are "puffing" on anything, long term.
So, some things you just have to accept about yourself. That's my advice. If you want to vape then you might have some wrinkles to go along with that enjoyment. If vaping makes you happy, then you may also get some nice little smile line wrinkles around the edges of your eyes.
It's better than those deep "frownie marks" along the sides of mouth that people who never smile have.
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Racehorse - you're right. I know you are.
I've been expecting aging to happen (real aging, I mean I know my general overall "affect" is my age, have no illusions about that and that I've been fine with) so I don't know why I'm taking this so hard. I just got my first couple of gray hairs this year, I have been waiting on that and expecting it so I don't know why it boggled me so much. I only have three or four of them that I can see but they're there and...maybe mortality is just setting in.
This is so stupid and I can't believe I'm revealing it on an e-cig forum (or any forum), but I guess I've just had this idea that some day, someone is going to love me. I mean really love me. Not like my husband "loves" me, he is obviously far from head-over-heels, he just likes to stay in one place and not have much trouble and so he's still here. He did love me, when I was in shape, gorgeous and as perfect as I could wrench and work out and make up myself to be, to earn that.
I don't think I've ever really been loved. Not for me. During times when I was at my absolute peak of perfection or as close as I could get to my personal version of it, sure, I've been told, "I love you!" Let go of any of that for ONE second and...poof. Or that's how it feels. I have no idea why this is. I feel like I have a great, fun personality (normally...not on this thread obviously, LOL). Other people are loved for who they are. I just don't get it.
So now lacking even that ability to make myself look as good as possible, it's really just pretty much over for me. Because if nobody has fallen in real, actual, no-matter-what love with me for who I am, and what I love, and what I do by now, it's surely not going to happen after this point with all else drooping southward.
Sounds like a whine...is a whine. I guess I have no rebuttal for that.
My children do love me. It's mutual, I adore them right back. I guess I just always thought some day I'd really find some absolutely wonderful relationship...and it never happened even at my very best...so...that's over. That's hard for me to accept. But there are worse things. Much much worse things. I don't know why I'm feeling this way now, I know it's childish. Guess I just have to pull up my big girl panties and get on with whatever the rest of it is.
I've been expecting aging to happen (real aging, I mean I know my general overall "affect" is my age, have no illusions about that and that I've been fine with) so I don't know why I'm taking this so hard. I just got my first couple of gray hairs this year, I have been waiting on that and expecting it so I don't know why it boggled me so much. I only have three or four of them that I can see but they're there and...maybe mortality is just setting in.
This is so stupid and I can't believe I'm revealing it on an e-cig forum (or any forum), but I guess I've just had this idea that some day, someone is going to love me. I mean really love me. Not like my husband "loves" me, he is obviously far from head-over-heels, he just likes to stay in one place and not have much trouble and so he's still here. He did love me, when I was in shape, gorgeous and as perfect as I could wrench and work out and make up myself to be, to earn that.
I don't think I've ever really been loved. Not for me. During times when I was at my absolute peak of perfection or as close as I could get to my personal version of it, sure, I've been told, "I love you!" Let go of any of that for ONE second and...poof. Or that's how it feels. I have no idea why this is. I feel like I have a great, fun personality (normally...not on this thread obviously, LOL). Other people are loved for who they are. I just don't get it.
So now lacking even that ability to make myself look as good as possible, it's really just pretty much over for me. Because if nobody has fallen in real, actual, no-matter-what love with me for who I am, and what I love, and what I do by now, it's surely not going to happen after this point with all else drooping southward.
Sounds like a whine...is a whine. I guess I have no rebuttal for that.
My children do love me. It's mutual, I adore them right back. I guess I just always thought some day I'd really find some absolutely wonderful relationship...and it never happened even at my very best...so...that's over. That's hard for me to accept. But there are worse things. Much much worse things. I don't know why I'm feeling this way now, I know it's childish. Guess I just have to pull up my big girl panties and get on with whatever the rest of it is.
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You say you would like to be loved for who you are, yet you think that once you have gray hair and a line or two for sure no one will see you for who you are. The kind of love you want (and we all want, man or woman) is the kind of love that looks at that gray hair or line and loves you more for it. That is, it sounds like you associate having to be perfect with getting a man to love you, but if so, you are trying to attract the wrong kind of man. A shallow person (man or woman) can't see beyond what people look like because they have no real concept of self-worth or a deeper understanding of themselves, life OR love. You need to love and respect yourself for who you are, and then you have a chance of attracting someone who also looks at the world (and people) that way. But as long as you associate how you look with the totality of your worth or even just the ability to "get" someone to love you, you will attract just that -- shallow men who are appearance-based and have nothing deeper to offer. And that's the real point... a shallow love won't fulfill you anyway, even if you "stayed physically perfect" your entire life. That's not real love if it's ready to fall apart as soon as the natural aging process sets in...
And btw, the natural aging process is not a dirty awful thing. Everything manifest ages. The earth. Trees. Mountains. Oceans. Tectonic plates drift over the ages, forming new lands and erasing others. Animals age. People age. Men too. And those very shallow men (and women) who can't appreciate a deeper, more spiritual kind of bond will grow old too and be the loneliest people of all.
Our society places a premium on being young and perfect and we are brainwashed to give youth more than its share of adoration. The fact is, if someone stood here and told me they could make me 21 again, I'd say NO THANKS! Aging is a process of becoming, not dying. Becoming wiser. More compassionate. Kinder. More aware. More powerful. And more centered. And if our societal group consciousness [and media which reflects that social consciousness] wasn't so shallow itself, we would be giving the aging process as much adoration and appreciation as we do youth.
Be proud of who you are as a kind and compassionate person. And if you are in an unhappy marriage and settling, consider how you want to spend the rest of your life. But sometimes (maybe most often) you can't go looking for love. You just build a good life for yourself and love will come knocking when you least expect or even want it, if that's what's meant to be. Then you'll fall in love kicking and screaming the whole way. Until you finally surrender, knowing this is it. But even if that shouldn't happen, it's better to be single and happy with all possibilities and roads wide open to you, then stuck in a loveless marriage where you wonder "what if" for the rest of your life. My two cents.
Yes, Trayce, of course you're right. About everything.
Ironically, I've never actually loved an "empirically" good-looking man. It's by coincidence, I haven't deliberately picked a man on his looks, no matter what those looks were, good, bad, average, etc. To me they were all beautiful. Absolutely, outstandingly and impossibly beautiful. That's what they were in my eyes. I fall in love with intelligence and humor. That's what it is for me. To me that's a beauty that never ends.
So to be so shallow when it comes to my standards for myself is probably pretty bizarre. And yes, you're 100%, unflinchingly right, it IS shallow, no matter what the basis.
Ironically, I've never actually loved an "empirically" good-looking man. It's by coincidence, I haven't deliberately picked a man on his looks, no matter what those looks were, good, bad, average, etc. To me they were all beautiful. Absolutely, outstandingly and impossibly beautiful. That's what they were in my eyes. I fall in love with intelligence and humor. That's what it is for me. To me that's a beauty that never ends.
So to be so shallow when it comes to my standards for myself is probably pretty bizarre. And yes, you're 100%, unflinchingly right, it IS shallow, no matter what the basis.
And on a lighter note: speaking of humor...OMG this thread has me dyin', I'm glad I started it now just for that. I keep re-reading and laughing.
I understand what you're saying CG.
I am a little older than you and noticed those lines in my late 40s, I had the hope that stopping smoking and vaping may help!
I was surfer girl, so i expect that did the damage!
I am heading off to have my face scraped off LOL..I think there are several procedures that can fill the cracks, but don't despair just yet, keep above the lip really moisturized, I tend to get a very dry mouth when vaping, so plenty of fluids.
I don't care about the vanity, if modern science can make me look better, I'll indulge!
I deserve it, I smoked for 40 years and gave it up, I'm rewarding myself.;-)
I am a little older than you and noticed those lines in my late 40s, I had the hope that stopping smoking and vaping may help!
I was surfer girl, so i expect that did the damage!
I am heading off to have my face scraped off LOL..I think there are several procedures that can fill the cracks, but don't despair just yet, keep above the lip really moisturized, I tend to get a very dry mouth when vaping, so plenty of fluids.
I don't care about the vanity, if modern science can make me look better, I'll indulge!
I deserve it, I smoked for 40 years and gave it up, I'm rewarding myself.;-)
Eh. Sometimes sharing in anonymity is very cathartic for people. Don't give it a 2nd thought.
People here share rashes, mucus and other "ecig" stories, so one about wrinkles, even though a lot of women think about wrinkles, is not at all far afield.
Perhaps, and this is just something for you to think about CG, you need to allow people to love you....and by that, I mean, stop thinking that you have to strive for some kind of perfection in order to be granted that.
Because, whether you realize it or not, the people in your life DO love you, and you are NOT perfect.
Believe me darlin', everyone knows your faults and flaws if they are close to you..........and they love you anyway. Stop putting all this pressure on yourself, girl.
You do not have to be perfect to be loved. And you probably aren't perfect, and never were,
so guess what? People loved you anyway, it's just that YOU thought it was because you were slim or in good shape or young or _____ insert reason here.Go dye your hair a fun color -- and paint your nails something you would never have thought of........and go have FUN today, love yourself.
Aging can be a very precious and fruitful passage, but you have to *desire* the lessons it has to teach. Some of those lessons are not immediately pleasant (osteoporosis, wrinkles, etc. etc. for some of us who were long time smokers) however, you find that you develop OTHER parts of yourself, which compensate for the things you lose. A long life, lived in a way that is self-examined, is a gift. The gift is all the things you learn.
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Eh. Sometimes sharing in anonymity is very cathartic for people. Don't give it a 2nd thought.
People here share rashes, mucus and other "ecig" stories, so one about wrinkles, even though a lot of women think about wrinkles, is not at all far afield.
Perhaps, and this is just something for you to think about CG, you need to allow people to love you....and by that, I mean, stop thinking that you have to strive for some kind of perfection in order to be granted that.
Because, whether you realize it or not, the people in your life DO love you, and you are NOT perfect.
Stop putting all this pressure on yourself, girl.
You do not have to be perfect to be loved. And you probably aren't perfect, and never were,
Go dye your hair a fun color -- and paint your nails something you would never have thought of........and go have FUN today, love yourself.
I love you guys.
Amen. And that was my only point. That YOU deserve that back.
But you aren't being shallow... you are just assuming the only man you can attract is a shallow one. (There is a difference.) And so because that's where your attention is, that's what you attracted. I don't know if the problem is thinking "all men are shallow" (/appearance-based) or that you have talked yourself into having low self-worth, but you deserve more. And there are good men out there. I do think it takes men a lot longer to mature than women, so sometimes older men reflect the best principles of men better than younger men. But there's nothing wrong with being single either, and it has many advantages of its own. Fact is, if one is happy with oneself, everywhere is home.
Keep the faith. This too shall pass...
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All I know is I love my wife with all my heart. She's 4 years older than me but I've been through a lot more than she has. I've been there done that and have the t shirts. She's been protected most of her life, I protect her innocence and I pray to God she doesn't have to go through what I have had.
As we get older and our age shows I've been embracing it. I have no wrinkles yet but Im getting used to people calling me sir. I have some scars and my face isn't as fresh as it was when I was 18, but it's a testement of what I've been through and how I've prevailed.
Those with laugh lines should be proud. It shows you've had a very happy life with lots of laughter and smiles.
As we get older and our age shows I've been embracing it. I have no wrinkles yet but Im getting used to people calling me sir. I have some scars and my face isn't as fresh as it was when I was 18, but it's a testement of what I've been through and how I've prevailed.
Those with laugh lines should be proud. It shows you've had a very happy life with lots of laughter and smiles.
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