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I am a zero nic vaper and I agree with the below. In fact my brain seemed to reprogram itself to vaping being the reward and when I got 0 nic juice that actually had nicotine in it my body and brain behaved as if I frank way too much coffee. WTA may be good for some but not for others

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*Preface* (I have not tried a WTA juice)

Yes I agree that WTA's could be the "future of vaping." All I can really say, are they a needed additive? Will they make me eggs in the morning, read me the paper, whisper wonderful things into my ear? I'm guessing no. I applaud innovation in all forms, but will this make the vaping experience any better? What all of this really hinges on is another subset of vapers. There are some that use No-Nic juice, others that use Nic juice, and those that use both. Now we will add people who use WTA in their juice. To me atleast, it just seems like another additive that may or may not be needed at all. Will I keep vaping my favorite juice if the vendor adds WTA's to it? Yes. Will I go out of my way to add WTA's to my juice, No.

Also, adding another addictive substance to eliquid could be viewed as a black mark to the vaping community. A majority of people dont understand what vaping is to begin with and now you have to explain that they are slightly more like analogs. I vape to distance myself from what smoking is perceived to be. It seems to me that some view vaping as a "Drug delivery device" and adding something like this kindof enforces it. Granted this may have been the same thing when PV or VG was added... perhaps im screaming in the dark here. *shrug* As long as there is a product, people will try to change said product to fit their needs. If WTA's will make one person happier then good on em.
 

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I am a zero nic vaper and I agree with the below. In fact my brain seemed to reprogram itself to vaping being the reward and when I got 0 nic juice that actually had nicotine in it my body and brain behaved as if I frank way too much coffee. WTA may be good for some but not for others
Congratulations. I think that people that can cut down nic naturally with out WTA are lucky. The thing is everyones bodies are different. It seems to me that you are perfect without it. I am able to vape alot less because of WTA. I am thankful for having wta juice to help me. Some day I hope to be a 0 nic vaper like you. Congrads.
 

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New style is pretty good too! I think anything that looks more organized and streamlined is more welcoming to the average reader, especially someone who is new to all this! Good job!
Thanks so much. Think I figured a way to do crazy graphs in 1/10 the time. Going to try one today.
 

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Sup Aaron? Just this morning I looked and realized that I am almost out of DHT WTA from Aroma :ohmy: It clicked to me, as I had my morning WTA vape, that I wish all juice was like this. It is like the David Lee Roth song California Girls but with WTA inserted in:


I wish they all could be WTA
I wish they all could be WTA
I wish they all could be WTA...juice


WTA is the real deal, and I am seriously looking into getting the concentrate from Jerry. Man, I need to say this again and again and again...Next to making the switch to vaping, using WTA has been my smartest decision! Aside from flavor and th, no other juice does anything for me, necessarily. Waking to vaping WTA, is a feeling that I wish all vaping was like!
 

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LOL :) Ya WTA juices are amazing. I vape like a research monkey :p So I just use WTA juices in the morning after meals and before bed. I have a PV devoted to WTA :p Just glad I no longer crave cigs like what I did when I vaped normal ejuice. Tell me how getting the concentrate goes. I got some super strength blackberry from VapingZone. So far tried the same amount on wizards, RTS, and ECOpure. Got way different results. Think the Aroma base is even better than ECOpure. Be interested to see. :p

Sup Aaron? Just this morning I looked and realized that I am almost out of DHT WTA from Aroma :ohmy: It clicked to me, as I had my morning WTA vape, that I wish all juice was like this. It is like the David Lee Roth song California Girls but with WTA inserted in:


I wish they all could be WTA
I wish they all could be WTA
I wish they all could be WTA...juice


WTA is the real deal, and I am seriously looking into getting the concentrate from Jerry. Man, I need to say this again and again and again...Next to making the switch to vaping, using WTA has been my smartest decision! Aside from flavor and th, no other juice does anything for me, necessarily. Waking to vaping WTA, is a feeling that I wish all vaping was like!
 

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Jerry is still somewhat unsure of exactly how to instruct people to properly use the concentrate. His fear is that people will over-do-it. I still want to find out, because if I can somehow WTA-ize different juices, that would not only be economical, but freakin' awesome. That being said, I also vape WTA from Aroma because of the taste...if it don't taste good, then it ain't gettin' vaped, ya dig?:laugh:

I will let you know as soon as I know!
 

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Here's what I've been doing; I've only been vaping WTA for a few days now, and am still experimenting with it. But it curbs the craving for analog, but not the craving to chain vape when I'm performing mental tasks, such as surfing the web.
I've got 3 cartos dedicated to WTA. 2 are for the 2 different flavors (WTA) that I have, and the 3rd is for a mix of WTA/non-WTA (regular).
And then I have other cartos for the regular juice. If I get the urge for an analog, I'll hit the WTA for a few puffs, then back to regular juice, or the mixed WTA/regular. All my juices are the highest nic content that Jerry offers (well actually I have one bottle of 0 nic for reduction purposes).
 

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Here's what I've been doing; I've only been vaping WTA for a few days now, and am still experimenting with it. But it curbs the craving for analog, but not the craving to chain vape when I'm performing mental tasks, such as surfing the web.
I've got 3 cartos dedicated to WTA. 2 are for the 2 different flavors (WTA) that I have, and the 3rd is for a mix of WTA/non-WTA (regular).
And then I have other cartos for the regular juice. If I get the urge for an analog, I'll hit the WTA for a few puffs, then back to regular juice, or the mixed WTA/regular. All my juices are the highest nic content that Jerry offers (well actually I have one bottle of 0 nic for reduction purposes).

So, you are saying you got the 24mg WTA from Jerry? Jeez, th city, huh?
 

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Have you tried the 12mg? I wonder if the 24mg would kick my rear-end? Either which way, I am going to second what you have said, as well as many others...I was having plenty of analog cravings that I could not vape away until 2-4 hits of this stuff. This thread is right, WTA is the future, or at the very least it is a major part of mine!!!!!!!!!!
 

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You can take the 24, and cut it with 0, and reduce it to what you want. I'd give it a go and see what happens.
Worst case is that you'll start with 10ml of 24 and end up with 20ml of 12. (well actually about 18ml of 12 'cause yer gonna vape some of the 24) But if yer like me, you'll cut the 24 with 12 and have something like 16, and be just about right.
Then if you mix WTA with regular, you'll be reducing the amount of WTA per unit as well as the nic.

I think the main thing is to get the juice, then you can tailor it to fit your needs. I don't know of anyone who can custom tailor a juice to fit everyones needs. And keep the cost down.
 

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I ordered these. They have been shipped.
1 | VanillaSplashWTA-10ml-L12 | Vanilla Splash WTA | |
Size: 10ml
Dosage: Low 12 MG

1 | PRICKLYPEARWTA-10ml-L12 | Prickly Pear WTA | |
Size: 10ml
Dosage: Low 12 MG

1 | TootyFruityWTA-10ml-L12 | Tooty Fruity WTA | |
Size: 10ml
Dosage: Low 12 MG

1 | DJBlackWTA-10ml-L12 | Darjim Black Clove WTA | |
Size: 10ml
Dosage: Low 12 MG

1 | AppleWTA-10ml-L12 | Apple WTA | |
Size: 10ml
Dosage: Low 12 MG

1 | DarkHoneyTobaccoWTA-10ml-L12 | Dark Honey Tobacco WTA | |
Size: 10ml
Dosage: Low 12 MG

1 | MentholWTA-10ml-M18 | Menthol P-38 WTA | |
Size: 10ml
Dosage: Med 18 MG

I have been vaping for a little more than a year. I occasionally, about twice a week, smoke half a cigarette. I have had times when I have gone a month or more without even a puff from a real cigarette, but the wanting for one never leave me. I still catch myself stalking people who are smoking, just to get a whiff. Things like pausing when I walk by a smoking area and walking toward a smoker instead of away from them. I am hoping the WTA will help me curb these cravings. I also vape too much.
 

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I had the same issues early on. The first 6 months I dropped from 2.5 PAD to 6 cigs but needed those 6, then I found snus and 4-5 portions replaced the cigs. However I still loved the smell and at the six month mark puff free I had the urge. I decided to wait six more months before I'd try one. I past a year and never considered that "trial". I'm now 2 1/4 yrs without a single drag, being around smokes doesn't phase me unless there are too many at which point it bothers me and I move away.

That being said, a month or so ago I got this real craving for two or three days, out of nowhere. It took WTA, nicquid, snus and a bit of nasal snuff to clear that away. I'm accepting the fact that at some point the monster will call again, but I have a lot of weapons and don't ever want to go back to where I was.
 

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I smoked analog cigarettes for 55 years (Yes, 55) and quit the first day I used an ecig without ANY withdrawal or regrets. I had used every other method to quit, but nothing worked for me. I can't justify adding ANY tobacco derivative at all, (for me). Also, I'm down to using 3 mg juice and headed to 0 nic.
This is a totally ego-centric point of view, but I don't want any addition possible health problems




 

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I got my first WTA a week ago, and so far I like it. I definitely notice a subtle calming effect when I use it. I bought the 26mg DK-Tab from Aroma, and I'm diluting it to about 6.5 mg using my own DIY 0mg DK-Tab mix. The only problem so far is my DIY DK-Tab doesn't cut it on taste anymore compared to the Aroma Dk-Tab; it's that much better. It reminds me of a generic "tobacco" flavor I got when I first started vaping and haven't been able to find since. My next order will include Aroma Dk-Tab at 0mg for diluting.

I see some are still referring to WTA having something "added" to regular nicotine-only. It doesn't "add" anything, it simply doesn't purify to remove the other alkaloids leaving only the nicotine. If the pharmaceutical companies had bothered to take that approach when they first created NRTs, they quite possibly would have created a product that actually worked.
 

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Randy, that's an interesting observation. I wonder how a gum (hate gum personally) or lozenges would have worked had they used that approach. I know how quickly I got off those last few smokes when I found snus. Just something to take that edge off.

Glassman, good for you. Your post points out clearly how different our physiology and psychology is as smokers. The people that really annoyed me at the start of my journey were those that posted about quitting smoking for years with e cigs, then going to 0 nic in a matter of days. All I accomplished by just cutting down to half a dozen smokes a day was have a PV in my face constantly waiting for my next real one. Now I use maybe a ml every three days or so and the nic level is more on mood.
 

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My first exposure to WTAs was the beetle juice and grandma's apple pie. Both work well; I enjoy both very much (which i can't say about other liquids I try).

Just ordered the GI Joe and DK-Tab at 26 mg to give the taste a try.

very excited about this. the only juice that has really curved my craving for an analog.
 

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Does anyone have any comparisons between Vapelicious and Aroma? I am totally satisfied with Aroma, but curious to see how they stack up head to head. Is Aroma way better than Vapelicious or just somewhat better...you notice how I set that up? "Way better" or just "somewhat better"? I am not leading the witness at all:laugh:
 
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