WTA is the future
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I don't know, I just got the juice for the first time. We will see.
I notice today as I vape nicotine only juice that I feel like I did the other day: kind of low-grade nicotine craving even though I'm vaping.
I am experimenting on myself to see how the effects differ. I'm beginning to feel that WTA might be the way to go. Even if it might have some small amount of carcinogenic alkaloids it would still be thousands of times safer than smoking.
I notice today as I vape nicotine only juice that I feel like I did the other day: kind of low-grade nicotine craving even though I'm vaping.
I am experimenting on myself to see how the effects differ. I'm beginning to feel that WTA might be the way to go. Even if it might have some small amount of carcinogenic alkaloids it would still be thousands of times safer than smoking.
Well, after having a little of the nicotine craving all day I got home and fired up some WTA. After vaping for only a few minutes I already feel better. I know this is only anecdotal, but my verdict is that it is indeed working better than nicotine-only juice for quelling my craving.
I usually get an underlying feeling of never quite getting enough of something when I'm vaping and I'm not sure I truly knew what to attribute that feeling to until I read about WTA. I figured why not try it it certainly isn't any worse than my 3 PAD Kool habit right?
I can say after using it though it has made such a big difference in how I feel.
Most days I'm vaping to "beat the band" kinda' but after I use a very small amount of WTA
I am not "speed vaping".
I don't feel as depressed as I might normally when it kicks in and I just have an overall sense of feeling better, calmer and just plain ole' GOOD! I also have SAD along with some mild depression and right about now is when I start looking for lightboxes and pills to try again but not this year unless it gets horrible I'm sticking with the WTA.
I thank chemists and God everyday for bringing this into my life!
C.B.
I ordered a custom blend (double menthol, mint)+Xhigh WTA Wednesday. How fast is he usually at shipping?
I'm gonna be stalking the mailman. Can't wait to try it.
I'm gonna be stalking the mailman. Can't wait to try it.
I usually get an underlying feeling of never quite getting enough of something when I'm vaping and I'm not sure I truly knew what to attribute that feeling to until I read about WTA. I figured why not try it it certainly isn't any worse than my 3 PAD Kool habit right?
I can say after using it though it has made such a big difference in how I feel.
Most days I'm vaping to "beat the band" kinda' but after I use a very small amount of WTA
I am not "speed vaping".
I don't feel as depressed as I might normally when it kicks in and I just have an overall sense of feeling better, calmer and just plain ole' GOOD! I also have SAD along with some mild depression and right about now is when I start looking for lightboxes and pills to try again but not this year unless it gets horrible I'm sticking with the WTA.
I thank chemists and God everyday for bringing this into my life!
C.B.
I'm sorry you have to suffer through that, but glad WTA is helping. I'm definitely going to order more.
The only one I've tried so far is DK-TAB which has a lot of flavor.
Imo, the most important thing - and I think obvious thing - about WTA is the safety implication of the next paragraph.
WTA is what we have been using for decades, yet suddenly it was declared that nicotine is all that matters. That was a very irresponsible move.
I suggest that many people will get only some of the effects of nicotine - the stimulation, notably the adrenaline rush that leads to higher heart rate and blood pressure (and also raised dopamine), but not the balancing relaxation that depends on release of serotonin, endorphins and opiate-like pathways. This depends not on nicotine levels as many claim, but on rates of change that depend on the MAOIs; this is what is overlooked - it is not just levels that matter, but how quickly they change (for neurotransmitters particularly). That is why just ODing on nicotine does not, and cannot, do what WTA does (even aside from what the other alkaloids may do by themselves, besides modulating nicotine's effects).
The use of just-nicotine could lead to complications with high blood pressure, and psychological issues, that would not occur if use was in accordance with historical use.
Fortunately, most for whom nicotine-only is not going to work out give up on it before things get serious, but were WTA to be available as an alternative for e-liquid, the situation would be so much more favorable.
WTA is safer than just-nicotine for this reason (use of nicotine alone might sound safer, but is actually a step into the unknown).
WTA is also safer because the reduced need for intake reduces the intake of the co-administerds - with vaping, this is the PG / VG and flavorings.
In short, it is not the WTA approach that needs to defend itself, but the decision that nicotine was all, which we know is not the case; and the outcome of vapng, where most fail to succeed, confirms this.
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One new thing I have noticed about WTA: After awhile I don't feel like vaping anymore. I put the PV down and just don't want any. I have not had that happen with nicotine-only juice for two months.
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Since I started to vape i have yet to put down my pv.I vape until I feel sick and still vape.The only reason I don't OD is because I really can't go over 6 to 9 mg as I fall asleep immediately.When I first read about WTA I thought "Oh I can't be one of those people".I fear I am.Kinabaloo thank you for all your informative posts on this issue.If people actually read your posts they would see how this all makes sense.I was on the fence about WTA but am now a believer.Cigarbabe thanks for all your insight-I feel your pain sister,depression SADD and all.I use a Halo g6-which I love but just got a Riva looking for more oomph(sound familiar?) and I hate it as it is just so hot and burns,ruins my precious Halo juices.Been using LR cartos and maybe it would be better with different ones but not sure what to get.Got an adapter to use Halo cartos on Riva and still burning juices.Not sure what to use with WTA as I want to get the best experience possible.So how do I go about getting WTA?Aromajuice is sold out and Vapeliscious(sp) has a f**cked up google ad across their site which won't remove.Do I need to join a secret society or wait until the moon is in the seventh high or some such or is there a site where you can just order it.Vapeing is the only thing that has made this 40 year hardcore put down analogs but I think I'll go buy a pack of smokes until this stuff becomes more available.Any help that anyone can give me would be much appreciated.SS.
Unfortunately everyone seems to be out at the moment. We really need more suppliers. Ethan said he'd have some ready for me in about a week. Whoever gets some more I'm going to order some. Aroma Juice's WTA is unflavored, btw, you have to mix it with something if you want flavor. The DK-TAB I have is one of the best juices I've ever had, but that's just me. YMMV.
sdh i sent you amessage but am not sure about pm as that was my first one.Thanks,SS
You did well. Sent you back a message. I am calling Ethan tomorrow. I am running low.
Hi, Sybils, and welcome to ECF. Vaping until you're sick makes very little sense. I know exactly what you're talking about. When, early on, I struggled to stay off cigarettes, the general advice here was: "up your nic and your Wattage." Well, that didn't do me any good, but I was lucky to discover the Smokeless subforum and it was a life saver for me. I vape because I like my hand-to-mouth action (muscle memory
), but I rely on snus (Swedish, my fav is General Mini Mint), dissolvables (Ariva and Stonewalls) and CigRX. I mix and match, to taste. If you're so unhappy, grab some snus--American Camel snus is quite effective and many people like it. See if that helps. Just for starters. Actually, Riva is a very good PV, and shouldn't be burning anything. What kind of cartomizers are you using? The new Rivas are the true 3.7v devices, similar to your Halo batteries (3.6v or so), so any cartomizer or atomizer in the 2.0-3.0Ω range should work just fine. I actually used the Bloog-alike cartos, which your G6 cartos are, on my Rivas without any problems. All you need is a simple adapter (510>kr808/901), if you'd like to use your G6 cartos on your Riva. I prefer Boge cartomizers myself. I buy blanks and fill them with my favorite juices.
If buying a pack of smokes is what you need to do, do it. It's not the end of the world. But try other things in the meantime, like snus. Aroma will have some WTA juices soon, within a few days, or so they say. Check their subforum and their website.
Vapelicious has an add, but you can make it go away. There is a button on top of that ad, but it's invisible for some. Try opening the page on full screen and see if you can get to that delete button.
Good luck.
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Watch Aroma's website. Jerry is going to start selling some flavored WTA eliquids any day now, hopefully.
Thanks. I was afraid of that. DK-TAB is very strong and peanutty, no matter who makes it.
I might just go for that. But I'm curious about that tropical delight everyone raves about... What's the name of that flavor?
Maui blend!!!!
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