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WTA is the future
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FYI, He is taking orders again
At his website follow the "The Plan For Jan" link. I placed by email yesterday and confirmed by phone today. Maui Blend (which is an awesome fruity tropical flowery flavor), and a Pineapple. These juices are great.
I started using WTA over the weekend- and found that it makes me very sleepy. Even a few hits puts me into such a drowsy state, I will literally fall asleep. I cut the WTA with PG and even the smallest amount has the same effect. I've read that some folks find it relaxes them- but for me, it seems to be to the extreme. So, the bad news for me is that I cannot vape WTA during the day at all. On the bright side, I vape it at night before bed and because I suffer from insomnia, it has helped tremendously for that.
I had such high hopes for WTA in terms of my getting over the cravings for analogs... but it has turned out that for me in particular, it acts as a sedative in the extreme.
So, it's back to regular nic juice for me and WTA only before bed...
Has anyone else experienced this?
In my opinion (now that I've tried the stuff), WTA is not for me- at least not in the way I had anticipated. The sedative qualities and the lethargy it causes were a complete surprise. Perhaps it is interacting with the antidepressant I have to take every day, I don't know. I'm just glad I got my WTA on Saturday- and discovered the full effects while I was at home. I hate to think of what would have happened if I had vaped it while driving any distance. Luckily I was at home the entire weekend.
I had such high hopes for WTA in terms of my getting over the cravings for analogs... but it has turned out that for me in particular, it acts as a sedative in the extreme.
So, it's back to regular nic juice for me and WTA only before bed...
Has anyone else experienced this?
In my opinion (now that I've tried the stuff), WTA is not for me- at least not in the way I had anticipated. The sedative qualities and the lethargy it causes were a complete surprise. Perhaps it is interacting with the antidepressant I have to take every day, I don't know. I'm just glad I got my WTA on Saturday- and discovered the full effects while I was at home. I hate to think of what would have happened if I had vaped it while driving any distance. Luckily I was at home the entire weekend.
If you got it from Ethan at Vapelicious, what strength WTA are you using??
I started with Xtra High WTA, and it completely WHACKED my desire for analogs! Yet, for the very same reasons you mentioned - lethargy/sleepy/too relaxed - I decided the Xtra High was too much for me. Recently, I've been diluting my WTA liquids by 50% with a low nic juice, and I'm doing great with this combination.
Actually, I'm amazed at how well I'm doing now. I usually begin the day with my WTA juice mix, then move to 6mg juice for the rest of the day. With lower nic, I finally am SLEEPING at night!
Next time I order from Ethan, I'll probably try Medium strength WTA, and a much lower level of nic. (Last order was 18mg, but NOW, I can easily get by with 6 to 9 mg.)
Feels so GOOD to be FREE!!!
I started with Xtra High WTA, and it completely WHACKED my desire for analogs! Yet, for the very same reasons you mentioned - lethargy/sleepy/too relaxed - I decided the Xtra High was too much for me. Recently, I've been diluting my WTA liquids by 50% with a low nic juice, and I'm doing great with this combination.
Actually, I'm amazed at how well I'm doing now. I usually begin the day with my WTA juice mix, then move to 6mg juice for the rest of the day. With lower nic, I finally am SLEEPING at night!
Next time I order from Ethan, I'll probably try Medium strength WTA, and a much lower level of nic. (Last order was 18mg, but NOW, I can easily get by with 6 to 9 mg.)
Feels so GOOD to be FREE!!!
I got x-tra high, 36mg nic. At first vape, I thought it was a bit harsh, but got used to it by the evening. Slept like the dead that night, LOL. Then I felt I needed to dilute it- take down the nic level as I was vaping at 18mg. I was still dopey. Then I cut it even further, and only took like three tokes after lunch the other day and I was out like a light. I realised it was the WTA, so as an experiment today I kept off the WTA and I don't feel tired at all.
Got an email from Ethan- he heard about my issues with WTA so I'm going to pop an email to him to explain what is possibly going on with me that this stuff would make me so darn sleepy- as in, drop dead sleep. I have insomnia more often than not, and have to take a sedative at night to get to sleep. But with the WTA at night, I can sleep without the drugs. My husband is concerned and wants me to quit the WTA, but I want to give it a chance and try to find the right dose that can satisfy my cravings for analogs.
Got an email from Ethan- he heard about my issues with WTA so I'm going to pop an email to him to explain what is possibly going on with me that this stuff would make me so darn sleepy- as in, drop dead sleep. I have insomnia more often than not, and have to take a sedative at night to get to sleep. But with the WTA at night, I can sleep without the drugs. My husband is concerned and wants me to quit the WTA, but I want to give it a chance and try to find the right dose that can satisfy my cravings for analogs.
Could there be a chance it is interfering with your anti-depressant therapy? IDK but depending on your anti-depressant and the neurotransmitters it hit/reacts I would consider it a side effect. I assume that WTA has MAOI properties. I take a supplement to hit my dopamine receptors. I recently restarted this because its cheaper than WTA. No offense to vendors who sell this. I cannot afford to continue use of this product.
Jeeezzzz...I've never tried 36mg nic, but I KNOW it would keep me awake at night, cuz 18mg has been keeping me awake. (That's why I'm experimenting and cutting back the nic. So far, so good!)
Ethan will take care of you, I'm sure. Please let us know what turns out...and GOOD LUCK!!
Ethan will take care of you, I'm sure. Please let us know what turns out...and GOOD LUCK!!
Maybe you should talk to your doctor rather than to Ethan at this point... Antidepressants are powerful drugs and one needs to be very, very careful. If anything makes you drop-dead sleepy and lethargic, don't take any chances.
Re sleep, I'm the opposite. I once went cold turkey for 5 months (the following 3 I was only smoking when out drinking) and I could almost fall into a deep asleep at will. That was strange for someone who's had long term sleeping problems. After about 5 months of that I have to admit it's the healthiest I'd ever felt in my life. My mood was much better too. When I was out and about I felt wide awake and when drinking I could drink twice as much without getting drunk. I went back on analogs and gradually the sleeping problems returned. Vaping hasn't really changed anything.
PS I forgot to add, I don't drink tea or coffee so going cold turkey on nicotine meant I was taking no stimulants at all. It was great for sleep but I found it hard to concentrate on work.
PS I forgot to add, I don't drink tea or coffee so going cold turkey on nicotine meant I was taking no stimulants at all. It was great for sleep but I found it hard to concentrate on work.
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Man... I couldn't read everything at once in this thread of course but, seems like many people that DON'T have a problem with nic-only juice are making serious and misinformed comments about those who DO have something "missing" from vaping.
I have suffered from a biological depression/anxiety disorder since I came out of puberty. So has about 70% of my immediate and extended family. MAOIs help with this kind of thing, and you don't have to be "labeled" with a disorder to need that "other stuff" from tobacco, many people, as is now obvious, are lacking something.
After about a 2 weeks of no tobacco, I got REALLY nervous, and started studying the WTA. I added snus recently and it has indeed helped, even after a short time.
I'm definately gonna try the WTA juice. It will come down in price (after all, as so many have tried to explain over and over, WTA is not an ADDITIVE, it is there as the chemist is extracting the nicotine, so yes it will probably be cheap eventually) and hey, some folks need rich dark roast coffee, some can go with decaf (which does have some caffeine)..... I could go on with example after example, but the point is, I'm not getting why folks are attacking this thing..... Do your research first, and you will understand much.
There is a proverb, several actually, about wise men keeping their mouth shut without first having knowledge, but I'm not gonna preach.
I'm done for now. Had a bad night and might say too much.
I have suffered from a biological depression/anxiety disorder since I came out of puberty. So has about 70% of my immediate and extended family. MAOIs help with this kind of thing, and you don't have to be "labeled" with a disorder to need that "other stuff" from tobacco, many people, as is now obvious, are lacking something.
After about a 2 weeks of no tobacco, I got REALLY nervous, and started studying the WTA. I added snus recently and it has indeed helped, even after a short time.
I'm definately gonna try the WTA juice. It will come down in price (after all, as so many have tried to explain over and over, WTA is not an ADDITIVE, it is there as the chemist is extracting the nicotine, so yes it will probably be cheap eventually) and hey, some folks need rich dark roast coffee, some can go with decaf (which does have some caffeine)..... I could go on with example after example, but the point is, I'm not getting why folks are attacking this thing..... Do your research first, and you will understand much.
There is a proverb, several actually, about wise men keeping their mouth shut without first having knowledge, but I'm not gonna preach.
I'm done for now. Had a bad night and might say too much.
I'm still using snuff (not snus) but I'm not smoking analogs since I've received my menthol p-38 from Ar0m@. That's a big step forward for me since I have been vaping and smoking since 2008. I've been a 2 pack a day guy, then went down to 1 pack, then to half a pack...but i never could stop the morning/night/after meal analogs... so I'm definitely one of those guys that did not stop analogs right away like some others have been able to do...so for me, not having any analogs for 3 days is nothing short of a miracle.
If you are like me, or are missing that analog feeling in one way or another, give this a try, and then see how you like it...
Or leave the rest for me mmmuahhhhhhhh
I'm definitely a believer and a convert, because no amount of E-Nic has helped me, and I was vaping at 48mg non stop....
Also, to get ahead of the placebo effect questions...while I do agree the placebo effect is very strong...it tends to wear off after a few days and your mind can no longer play tricks on your body....so for people that have been analog free with WTA, it has to be more than placebo if they are on 2-4 weeks without an analog where previously, they were vaping and smoking on regular e_juice.
Thats all i wanted to add for now! I'm going to go back and read some of the other posts on this thread.
If you are like me, or are missing that analog feeling in one way or another, give this a try, and then see how you like it...
Or leave the rest for me mmmuahhhhhhhh
I'm definitely a believer and a convert, because no amount of E-Nic has helped me, and I was vaping at 48mg non stop....
Also, to get ahead of the placebo effect questions...while I do agree the placebo effect is very strong...it tends to wear off after a few days
and your mind can no longer play tricks on your body....so for people that have been analog free with WTA, it has to be more than placebo if they are on 2-4 weeks without an analog where previously, they were vaping and smoking on regular e_juice. Thats all i wanted to add for now! I'm going to go back and read some of the other posts on this thread.
Does anyone know of anyway to get WTA in Canada? I've been looking for a vendor who is willing to ship here but so far no luck
Junior, I was a 2 and a halfer, a confirmed smoker. I think the WTA may have worked for me after I tried it. After six months in your situation, I searched and finally found snus. In three days, I'll be without a single drag on a smoke. The only thing I can attribute it to is those other magical alkaloids that I was missing.
Good luck on your journey.
Good luck on your journey.
Agreed. Snuff and snus are the answers to a lot of questions that we have in vaping , and now WTA can be added to that list
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Jerry from Aroma has stated that he plans to start shipping out of the country when he gets his production up to speed. You may want to contact him to get a clue as to when that would happen. I know nothing about what's going on with the other WTA vender.
Read these to get up to speed
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dvap/642-madame-psychosis-summary-pt-1.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dvap/643-madame-psychosis-summary-pt-2.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dvap/644-madame-psychosis-summary-pt-3.html
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