Xc-116 vs ekowool

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There is a place here that has stainless, not galvanized. I am familiar with toxic fumes I use to be a welder

Around here stuff like this may more likely be found at the smaller mom & pop building supply/hardware stores. I go to them specifically when I need items not commonly carried by the big box DIY chains & almost always find what I need there. If not then another ordered placed with Mcmaster & delivered the next business day.
 

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Hey, so, my Mark Twain cotton Micro build was indeed satisfying. I've since been upping the ante on our old friend cotton (a.k.a. "Supe's balls"). It has been performing tremendously as far as keeping up with intensive micro-coil-type-style setups. Here's the latest. I'm calling this one "Krusty the Clown". I was trying to go easy on the cotton with the center-fluff-wick-thingy. Seems to be absolutely unnecessary. Next time I'll just go straight micro. This here would be your 26g Nichrome (that's 25g Kanthal, to you and me), 0.5Ω.





 

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Hey, so, my Mark Twain cotton Micro build was indeed satisfying. I've since been upping the ante on our old friend cotton (a.k.a. "Supe's balls"). It has been performing tremendously as far as keeping up with intensive micro-coil-type-style setups. Here's the latest. I'm calling this one "Krusty the Clown". I was trying to go easy on the cotton with the center-fluff-wick-thingy. Seems to be absolutely unnecessary. Next time I'll just go straight micro. This here would be your 26g Nichrome (that's 25g Kanthal, to you and me), 0.5Ω.
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2 dummy questions, if you will indulge me :)
1. How did you wrap that coil gap? You somehow reversed the direction?
2. I'm not a Reonaut, so are you dripping with that set up or squonking? (If that is a Reo) I ask because I would have thought the wick would need to be closer to the hole to stay wet...:confused:
 

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#2 is a trick question! Beee-cause the question isn't the question! :closedeyes: But I will be overjoyed to answer the secret question within a question and then gleefully shoot over to #1.

When squonking an rba on a REO, you can just squeeze and hold the bottle for a few seconds (like two), and the atty will slowly continue to fill. Not indefinitely, mind you; but enough to soak that wick. When you release, the excess juice goes right back down the hole, and its like nothin' ever happened (except your wick is wet).

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#2 is a trick question! Beee-cause the question isn't the question! :closedeyes: But I will be overjoyed to answer the secret question within a question and then gleefully shoot over to #1.

When squonking an RBA on a REO, you can just squeeze and hold the bottle for a few seconds (like two), and the atty will slowly continue to fill. Not indefinitely, mind you; but enough to soak that wick. When you release, the excess juice goes right back down the hole, and its like nothin' ever happened (except your wick is wet).

#1 question:
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Thank you, as always...I get it now! :toast:
 

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This is a very interesting coil, Pdib. I just tried it, though I don't have the testicular fortitude to do it at .5 ohm, mine is 1.8 at 30ga kanthal. For me, with microcoils, that's pretty low, usual is 2.4.

The tails dangling out of the middle are great. RM2 is a bit concave, and they dangle right into the middle where a bit of juice pools up. Since there's effectively two chunks of cotton, they wick faster than a single one, allowing me to make a smaller diameter coil.

So far, I'd classify it as a solid "yay". Same amount of vapor and throat hit as my usual coil, but slightly better flavor. And, hopefully, I will burn fewer wicks in this one.
 

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Yeah, I was surprised to find the uppage of the flavorage despite the downage of the ohmage*. I'm getting great flavor. Like I said though, along with it, lotta sweetness too. I wonder how the GM that Ts A feels about it. (Supe? thoughts?)















*this "ohmage" in homage to Jasl90 . . . . and the guy who "doesn't want to sound like a chode", but did
 
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My initial thoughts when wrapped this (krusty's biatch) was that with coil wrapping, some days ya got it and some days ya don't - in that my wraps just didn't wanna land where I wanted them to :)

My second thought was, probably like yours: why did I do this again?

My third was, (didn't meter this): crank up the power a little on the VVG.

My fourth was: this is much better suited to my chalice cause its got a center juice / drain orifice.

My fifth (after vaping it): why did I do this again?

It is a novel setup, heats quick. But, no discernible performance gains over proper micro. Vaping it side by side against a grand / RM2 with a 2 ohm proper micro, it is about the same (thats a good thing) but with more effort required. Observation: my cotton krustys biatch head levitated upwards (it was originally on the deck) over the last several days :)

Unflavored nic tastes just as good as it did with my usual cotton builds:)

Oh, look...Another brother also gave it a shot:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9878691
 
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I'm still finding an increase in flavor. This may well have to do with the low resistance combined with the compromise on the micro. In any case, I wasn't trying to re-create the world; mostly just having fun and seeing how the cotton holds up. I kind of want to find the bottom end of it's wicking abilities, and I kind of want to find that there isn't one. :)



your second thought, Supe, was my fourth (remember, I had a Krusty thought to fit in there too), only a little different. Mine was, "didn't I do this before?" Then, #5, "yeah, but I didn't actually pull the wick through; as it was an after-thought which I abandoned".
 
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Not "Z" coil friendly, cause, since their wrapped in the same direction, they unravel when you pull the tails. Whereas on a typical coil, they tighten. I abandoned this build when I realized that. But on an RBA like this beast, the application looked promising.

It's cool how many coilers got the same wild hair at the same time. :) :)

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Yep, it is. The loop in the center / legs leave the coil symmetrically business actually originated, for me, from coiling instructions that came with some little clearo I got way back when. I think it was a mini vivi, or something. I used to use it when a build could really benefit from double-top or double-bottom legs.

EDIT: No, I think maybe it was the Phoenix clone. Don't recall for sure.
 
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There is a place here that has stainless, not galvanized. I am familiar with toxic fumes I use to be a welder

Since you have knowledge on welding maybe you can help me. is there a risk of using ss mesh as a wick(UNoxidized). like a chromium 6 risk. Is there a risk using ss mesh UNoxidized with a ekowool sleeve. remember ss mesh is very small and thin and heats up qiuckily. im not sure how hot our coils get but sometimes im sure when they glow they get hot. whats your take on the subject.

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just to contribute from a non dripper stand point. Ive wrapped bct's with both ekowool and xc-116 and i must say that i prefer the xc-116 taste. Using a propane torch to get both materials to white hot i notice a slight taste to the ekowool. In my opinion on a bct they wick the same. My rsst is using a ss rop wick with xc-116 over it under the coil and have been doing it ever since i saw it on youtube. Never tried with ekowool because even with torching it would fray on me.
 

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Since you have knowledge on welding maybe you can help me. is there a risk of using ss mesh as a wick(UNoxidized). like a chromium 6 risk. Is there a risk using ss mesh UNoxidized with a ekowool sleeve. remember ss mesh is very small and thin and heats up qiuckily. im not sure how hot our coils get but sometimes im sure when they glow they get hot. whats your take on the subject.

thanks

I actually have wondered the same thing but I am pretty sure(meaning I havent put a IR thermometer to a glowing coil) that we aren't actually getting the SS hot enough to produce the harmful vapor. You definitely dont when you are vaping and it has juice on it. But like I said I havent actually put a thermometer to a glowing coil.
 

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I actually have wondered the same thing but I am pretty sure(meaning I havent put a IR thermometer to a glowing coil) that we aren't actually getting the SS hot enough to produce the harmful vapor. You definitely dont when you are vaping and it has juice on it. But like I said I havent actually put a thermometer to a glowing coil.

I have an IR thermometer, ill redo my rsst with ss mesh and ill take a reading to check how hot it gets on a dry burn later today or tomorrow
 
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