Yes I still Smoke Cigarettes and I am addicted to the smoking habit - support and chat thread.

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FinallyQuit

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:facepalm: DUH! You're the one who should be answering Shari's question then; well, you & Lox:)

No way sister, I bow to the master! I dabble and play, he creates masterpieces!

It's hot, I feel much better now, though I'm still sleepy but determined to make it through the day. Intestinal fortitude, rofl.
 

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OK I've gotten everything read....I think.
Good afternoon everyone, it was still morning when I started. LOL

Interesting morning here, my vapemail came and I now have an eRoll for when I'm out and about. Between playing with that and putting away the new juices from MBV I simply forgot my morning smoke. YAY!!!!! I had my last one at about 7 P.M. yesterday and so far vaping is satisfying me completely today. Now I need to go make another order for atty heads, changed out my first two last night on the clearomizers. I'm starting to really like my two Vision V fate tanks and preparing to order a 3.5, the two I have are 2.0s and a little tricky to fill and pretty impossible to see how much juice is left when it gets low.

I did actually think about the morning smoke for a few minutes but since that requires either going outside or in the garage and standing there while I smoke I decided I'd rather play with the new toy and now I don't really want it.

Now off to the Chevy dealer in a bit to pick up some parts for my car and I could go by the vape shop not too far from there if I want, but I've spent too much online this weekend so I may pass this time. I've never been to a vape shop and I'm a little leery, read panic disorder and meeting new people kicking in.
 

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    Just putting my 2 cents in here and that's about all it's worth too. lol. How many of the prescriptions are written to alleviate the side effects of the other prescriptions? They seem to have an attitude of "oh don't worry about side effects we can give you something else to take care of that".
    Yessss! This ^^^^^is killing me:(
    No way sister, I bow to the master! I dabble and play, he creates masterpieces!
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    Indeed!
    I'm excited :banana: my flavor molecules are finally here :banana:

    I think I've cracked Boba's (where's the evil laugh smilie?):evil:


    Now to find time to mix :(
    Fixed it for ya' ;)
    OK I've gotten everything read....I think.
    Good afternoon everyone, it was still morning when I started. LOL

    Interesting morning here, my vapemail came and I now have an eRoll for when I'm out and about. Between playing with that and putting away the new juices from MBV I simply forgot my morning smoke. YAY!!!!! I had my last one at about 7 P.M. yesterday and so far vaping is satisfying me completely today. Now I need to go make another order for atty heads, changed out my first two last night on the clearomizers. I'm starting to really like my two Vision V fate tanks and preparing to order a 3.5, the two I have are 2.0s and a little tricky to fill and pretty impossible to see how much juice is left when it gets low.

    I did actually think about the morning smoke for a few minutes but since that requires either going
    outside or in the garage and standing there while I smoke I decided I'd rather play with the new toy and now I don't really want it.

    I've never been to a vape shop and I'm a little leery, read panic disorder and meeting new people kicking in.
    Yay!!! Another winner for the e-roll! :)
    Nah, you'll be fine, have fun there!
     

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    OK I've gotten everything read....I think.
    Good afternoon everyone, it was still morning when I started. LOL

    Interesting morning here, my vapemail came and I now have an eRoll for when I'm out and about. Between playing with that and putting away the new juices from MBV I simply forgot my morning smoke. YAY!!!!! I had my last one at about 7 P.M. yesterday and so far vaping is satisfying me completely today. Now I need to go make another order for atty heads, changed out my first two last night on the clearomizers. I'm starting to really like my two Vision V fate tanks and preparing to order a 3.5, the two I have are 2.0s and a little tricky to fill and pretty impossible to see how much juice is left when it gets low.

    I did actually think about the morning smoke for a few minutes but since that requires either going outside or in the garage and standing there while I smoke I decided I'd rather play with the new toy and now I don't really want it.

    Now off to the Chevy dealer in a bit to pick up some parts for my car and I could go by the vape shop not too far from there if I want, but I've spent too much online this weekend so I may pass this time. I've never been to a vape shop and I'm a little leery, read panic disorder and meeting new people kicking in.

    Theyre gonna love ya
     

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    I hate going to the vape shop around here. Overpriced, staff not very helpful, "specialize" in Joye eGo products, sub-par juice, long lines, parking nightmares. The great one, VapingZone, is a longer drive, parking not so bad but very near a huge mall so traffic a nightmare, staff pretty knowledgable but busy and long long lines. The cool thing, you can order online and pick up there, so no need to actually stand in the line unless you need help or something explained to you. They do sell mods, batteries, etc. as well as DIY flavorings and nic/pg/vg/bottles so a little broader in terms of service, but still hate going in there.

    Give me my jammies, the mouse, and an hour, I can bargain hunt with the best of them. If I need something RIGHT NOW then I go to the shop and cry later when I see what I bought for 1/3 to 1/2 the price I paid.

    Claudia, not to unduly influence your decision, just putting it out there.
     
    I hate going to the vape shop around here. Overpriced, staff not very helpful, "specialize" in Joye eGo products, sub-par juice, long lines, parking nightmares.

    This is why I'm going to start DIY. My wife wants me to turn it into a business, but I don't know about all that. I'd be content to just make quality juice for myself, my wife, and my friends.
     

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    They wonder why they're going broke :glare: package went from Nashville Tn to Mississippi then I forget where Tn then back to Nashville.
    That would be like me driving to Pittsburg to install a lock in Philly :blink:

    They can go broke for all I care, someone else with pick up the ball and maybe even provide decent service. My cousin who lives here went back to MD for the 4th and her grandson's birthday, she decided to mail some stuff back here rather than pay for extra baggage at the airport. She paid for insurance and having to sign for the package so she would be sure she got it, well it never came, then she finds out that even though she paid for insurance they put a standard shipping label on the box that said nothing about insurance. About two weeks later she got a package with her name on it but it wasn't the box she packed, she didn't open it, went straight to the post office and they opened it together. There were a few of her items in there but not even half of what she had put in, she was told that her box wasn't the right kind and it broke open at the Atlanta airport and this was all of her stuff they could find. They told her the rest of her stuff would be auctioned off in Atlanta and there was nothing she could do about it and since the post office she mailed it from did not fill out the insurance forms or put an insurance label on the box she was SOL.
    Most of the items in the box are irreplaceable and the rest were her clothes, parts of outfits, and other necessary clothing that she will have to pay to replace.

    I've ordered things from Amazon that were shipped from Chattanooga to Memphis, to Nashville, Knoxville and then back here halfway between Chattanooga and Knoxville. UPS doesn't do much better, everything shipped from Chattanooga has to at least go to Knoxville and back to Chattanooga before they put it on the truck for delivery.
     

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    I hate going to the vape shop around here. Overpriced, staff not very helpful, "specialize" in Joye eGo products, sub-par juice, long lines, parking nightmares. The great one, VapingZone, is a longer drive, parking not so bad but very near a huge mall so traffic a nightmare, staff pretty knowledgable but busy and long long lines. The cool thing, you can order online and pick up there, so no need to actually stand in the line unless you need help or something explained to you. They do sell mods, batteries, etc. as well as DIY flavorings and nic/pg/vg/bottles so a little broader in terms of service, but still hate going in there.

    Give me my jammies, the mouse, and an hour, I can bargain hunt with the best of them. If I need something RIGHT NOW then I go to the shop and cry later when I see what I bought for 1/3 to 1/2 the price I paid.

    Claudia, not to unduly influence your decision, just putting it out there.

    I understand FQ, that is a good part of the reason I am hesitant to go, this is the closest one to me and it's about 35 miles away, but not too far from the dealership. I know I will see something I will fall in love with and honestly I'm not ready to move up to a mod or DIY stuff. I may be ready to try something different in the way of juice or a tank or something like that though, and sometimes it's good to actually see something rather than a pic with no size perspective.

    I'm so new at this I still don't really know what I want or like, especially when it comes to juice.
     
    I understand FQ, that is a good part of the reason I am hesitant to go, this is the closest one to me and it's about 35 miles away, but not too far from the dealership. I know I will see something I will fall in love with and honestly I'm not ready to move up to a mod or DIY stuff. I may be ready to try something different in the way of juice or a tank or something like that though, and sometimes it's good to actually see something rather than a pic with no size perspective.

    I'm so new at this I still don't really know what I want or like, especially when it comes to juice.

    The relationships I've built with the clerks at my local B&M are almost priceless. Awesome people. I take my kids in when I go (it's a family friendly place) and my girls bring them drawings and notes and stuff :) They love it. It's worth paying the higher prices sometimes, for me at least, to get that personal interaction and face-to-face explanation and demonstration. I've paid waaaay more for my couple of mods than I would have through fasttech, but it was worth it to get the support I get at my B&M.
     

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    The relationships I've built with the clerks at my local B&M are almost priceless. Awesome people. I take my kids in when I go (it's a family friendly place) and my girls bring them drawings and notes and stuff :) They love it. It's worth paying the higher prices sometimes, for me at least, to get that personal interaction and face-to-face explanation and demonstration. I've paid waaaay more for my couple of mods than I would have through fasttech, but it was worth it to get the support I get at my B&M.

    Well I'm not going with him to get the car parts after all so this is going to have to happen another day. I could have gone but we are having some pretty nasty thunderstorms today and honestly his driving scares me enough in good weather. lol

    I think I'm going to give them a call though and make contact that way, looking at their website their prices are better than some I see maybe enough better to make up the difference of having to pay tax and shipping.

    OK someone tell me about carto tanks, I just saw a smallish one that I fell in love with. lol
     

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    The relationships I've built with the clerks at my local B&M are almost priceless. Awesome people. I take my kids in when I go (it's a family friendly place) and my girls bring them drawings and notes and stuff :) They love it. It's worth paying the higher prices sometimes, for me at least, to get that personal interaction and face-to-face explanation and demonstration. I've paid waaaay more for my couple of mods than I would have through fasttech, but it was worth it to get the support I get at my B&M.

    I paid $16 for an Evod and $4 for a replacement head at my local shop. And the other things on my list still apply. That might skew my perspective.
     
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    Your right, we disagree. Patients with Medicare HMO's are less satisfied and patients with Medicare traditional are the most satisfied. Medicare traditional has higher rates of satisfaction than private insurance, plus it costs 30% less than Medicare HMO (the supplimental they talk about ending for the last 10 years or more). Medicare traditional medical neccessity standards are developed by a panel of doctors in an open process that anyone can look up on line and read the transcripts (if you really want to) but references and citations are available. All that is behind closed doors, including utilization, with HMO's, Medicare or not. All Medicare traditional does is centralize payment processing. One forum, one address, one set of medical necessity standards, open and applied fairly to all. Doctors make the decisions.

    Medical necessity standards have to exist in any system of care and do already. A doctor can't prescribe chemo for a hang nail to get more money. They can't get paid for removing your left foot when you went in for surgery on your liver. That sort of thing. It's better to have them in the open, discussed and challenged by their peers than behind closed doors of an institution whose legal obligation is first to their investors. As long as it's a corporation, patents are second and that's the law.

    Centralizing payment processing would reduce overhead by at least 30% and probably more now. Currently doctors have to field hundreds of different standards and forumlaries. Estimates are it takes a minimum of 7 full time billing agents per doctor. It's nearly impossible for a doctor to go into single doctor private practice now. With centralized processing, they could. Canada experienced an explosion of private practice doctors and it's nearly triple the rate the US has per person. They also have centralized payment system.

    It's not the same as socialized medicine like NHS (UK) where doctors work directly for the government. I don't know what people in the US were doing to miss the Olympics opening that celebrated the NHS system, but everytime I hear mention of it, the phrase includes how proud they are of it.

    One of the biggest beefs in Canada is that they are afraid of regulations that might lead to an "american system" of healthcare. That's echoed the world over. NO ONE WANTS OUR SYSTEM. Medicare has been successful. One added benefit would be a central pool of anonymized data enabling researchers to pool effective outcomes from treatments. Currently getting a well rounded pool of data is expensive and time consuming that is often full of statistical errors or bias leading to faulty results.

    I usually begin any type of medical research by pooling information from large reviews from universal healthcare systems since they are more interested in long term results being the most cost effective. That's not true in the US. Their reviews begin with exhaustive methodology of why which studies were chosen or not. Over the past ten years I've seen results in other countries conflict the US standards for the first time AND up to 3/4ths of US studies tossed out as unuseable due to conflicts of interest. The US isn't even close to running for "best medical care". We aren't even in the top third anymore. It hasn't always been like that. It's shameful.

    More people die from inadequate or lack of medical care than anything else in the US. Insurance could be seen as another form of terrorism - so yea, I think it's a duty of government to protect us, only it's not in some other country.


    Sorry, but I think you're incredibly wrong on this, and many, many health care professionals agree with views similar to mine. I won't go any further into this, as I know it is a sensitive subject especially for those struggling with the system. I'm just going to post a video expressing some of the flaws in that argument, as detailed by Othropedic Surgeon Lee Hieb and her personal experience on these kinds of regulations, and how it has affected her practice.


     
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