Yes I still Smoke Cigarettes and I am addicted to the smoking habit - support and chat thread.

[aikanae1]

Well, she's a reformed smoker, quit through the power of prayer and sheer guts, blah blah blah. She prays daily for me to be delivered from the urge to smoke. Ha, that's probably why I was finally able to quit!!!

Yeah, I love her, she was my Sunday School teacher when I was 10, we've been living a couple streets away from each other and working at the same office for years now, so we started sharing gas costs and carpooling about 3 years ago. Lemme tell ya, it's annoying as hell!!

I woke up this morning thinking about that (so I must relate to it myself in some way) however, my thought was, "Is it worth it?" I think I'd figure out a reason to cut down on the carpooling to maybe 2 or 3 days/week, then take it from there. Life is stressful enough, but esp. if she was reminding you of a critical parent. Ewww. That's a reason to smoke (I might tell her that as long as I'm 3,000 mi away).

GM.

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[jessermay]

I have an iTaste, I love it! i don't mess with the volts much, keep it set right around 3.6-3.8 and mess with the watts all the time, it is amazing how different a juice can taste at different wattages. I am still in the learning process with it but I really like it.

 

[loxmythe]

I don't understand it I don't want to understand it I think my point was if your like me looking for what I was - spend $40 on one before you spend $200 on something else. I'd have literally saved thousands of $$$ if I started with one of these.

 

[jessermay]

i was thinking the same thing! I started with the Halo G6, then that wasn't enough and moved up to the Halo Triton and I loved that! But it still wasn't enough so I got an eho style 650mah battery and wasn't real impressed but came across the itaste and it really is great and does everything I could have ever imagined. I didn't spend too much money before I got this but it was enough $$. I still like the Triton as a back up but I use the itaste all day long! and I love the pass through capabilities!

 

[aikanae1]

All I know is I have the volts at 3.7 and the watts and 9.5 with a 2.4 I06 and I'm getting clouds of warm tasty vapor without monster TH or burnt flavor. If I turn the watts down the vapor cools and wains.
Like my welding teacher told me once - just weld the damn thing and worry about theory and why after the jobs done

Have you seen the Pbsuardo reviews? It seems Innokin is using a different power modulation than most of the other VV/VW that use pulsing (pwm I think) that goes up and down so many times / sec (essentially on or off).

Innokin's graph is a flat line based on what you set, which is what the Provari gives off. This is true for the iTaste and MVP reviews I've seen. Previously that kind of power control was a reason for a higher price tag since it was more expensive to do. It appears Innokin has developed something new - and propietary.

When I think about the power being a flat line based on voltage settings alone, it would seem like setting watts wouldn't make much difference and the only difference would be when using a device with pwm to average out the pulses (how many times it goes on/off per second) to match the voltage set.

I agree with your welding teacher. Figure out what works first because hindsight is 20/20. I honestly don't know if how the power is modulated even has much to do with it or not. However, I think nailing down what it is that provides the vape you crave is essential. I'm definatley interested in figuring it out.

Thx for sharing your thoughts on this.

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[FinallyQuit]

Must Not Buy the iTaste. Must NOT buy the iTaste. Must not. Must not.

Yeah, that's not working for me. . .

I'll add it to the list!

Had a fabulous lunch, it feels like fall outside, but it is raining. Oh well, can't have everything!

 

[aikanae1]

That's my understanding too FQ. The watts is supposed to adjust the volts depending on the atomizer that's being used. But for some reason changing the watts on the itaste is giving a vastly different vape than expected. If I had my juice turned up to 4.5 volts it would be burnt - yet putting the itaste on 9.0 watts is warming it up without burning it. As the atomizer head is 2.4 is stands to reason the watts would adjust the volts to about 4.5 or so....I really don't understand how this juice isn't getting burnt.

I really couldn't understand why people were going nuts over wattage - as it just supposed to automatically adjust the volts dependent upon the atomizer head....but now I see why they're being nuts. It's different somehow.

IMO that pretty well confirms my hunch that Innokin is probably using different power regulation than other vv/vw's - which mainly use a chipset made by Sigelei if I'm understanding it correctly (Vamo, Smok, Sigelei, Anyvape, etc). Just my - which might literally be all my opinion is worth.

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[Claudia P]

OK which itaste model are you talking about, I tried looking back through posts to find out but there are just too many. I've seen an itaste that was about the same size as the egos and I've seen some I would have to hire someone to carry around for me, lol.

 

[loxmythe]

I'm thinking a 200watt light bulb drawing 115volts is hotter than a 15watt light bulb running on that same 115volts.
Hey I had a Susie homemaker oven when I was a kid (yeah I'm a guy so what? ) I know all about how hot light bulbs get

 

[beebopnjazz]

The itaste that's the size of an ego is what we've been talking about. The MVP (box) is only VV right now - later this year VV/VW

 

[Claudia P]

The itaste that's the size of an ego is what we've been talking about. The MVP (box) is only VV right now - later this year VV/VW

Thank you

 

[FL Lori]

That has to be what it's doing. On the Vamo the magic happens when you hit the fire button, and I'm assuming whatever voltage you get at the beginning holds constant until you let go of the fire button. I do not even attempt to understand these things, but I do read a lot about them.

Lori, I usually stick between 5 and 6 watts, and I'm noticing the burnt taste a lot. If I turn watts down to 3-4 I feel like I get NO vapor. I keep blaming it on my evod/t3 heads (they range from 1.8 to 2.5 ohms) like maybe the Vamo just doesn't play well with them. Heck, I really am clueless.

At any rate, Lori, see if you can get that itaste back from Bill and try it at 6 watts to see what happens!

*Hello, Thaya! Hope you're having a great day!

I did and it was too hot for me. Now could I up the ohms on the atty, yes

 

[FL Lori]

I don't know exactly. But yes you can set volts and it stays put regardless of where you set the watts. Changing one doesn't change the other. Should it change? Will I blow my face off? Will the Eagles ever win the super bowl? I don't know
But I'm thinking like this - my lamp is plugged in to a 115V outlet - if I put a 15 watt bulb in or a 200 watt bulb in - its still drawing 115V just using more electricity and producing brighter light with 200 watts. I'm assuming its the same - my battery will die quicker at 9 watts than at 3 watts but its still can't draw more volts than I give it. You can't plug a 220 oven into a 115 outlet because it can't pull more volts than are available - does that make sense?

If Vic is still at the helm, no!

 

[FL Lori]

I'm thinking a 200watt light bulb drawing 115volts is hotter than a 15watt light bulb running on that same 115volts.
Hey I had a Susie homemaker oven when I was a kid (yeah I'm a guy so what? ) I know all about how hot light bulbs get

yes watts are cooler than volts at the same numbers. I don't like a 3.7 volt. Too strong for me. JMO

 

[aikanae1]

Oh that's regulated voltage - the Provari provides that (as do other higher end devices) - pulse width modulation......another make-your- head-spin-like-Linda-Blair explanation.

BINGO. That's what I was trying to describe. PWM is basically on or off so many times per second to achive the voltage required. More times for higher volts and less times for lower volts. The graphs go up and down vs. a flat line.

I'm not sure how, but setting WATTS on mods using PWM allows the mod to adjust to the resistance of whatever delivery set up you put on it. Without setting it in wattage mode - i.e. volts, you need to adjust it for using 1.8ohms or 3.0ohms everytime you change it. Somehow for some reason, setting wattage does that for you (my analogy is shutter priority or apeture priority).

With regulated voltage, wysiwyg - it automatically regulates and adjusts to whatever resistance of your delivery set up is. You set it at 4.2V and you will get 4.2V with a 1.8ohm or 3.0ohm resistance.

I.E. PWM was a cheap way to achieve power regulation like the higher end devices.

So what the Innokin is doing is .............???? idk. I know for sure on an oscillascope it's regulated power and not PWM. But it's NOT the same as Vamo, Siegeli, Smok, etc. (kinda cool too).

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[Notorious2again]

Okay. I'm back. Love this thing It's hefty, well made, cool to look at, and has cruise control. I set it at 9.5w and 4.0v and no matter what I put on the damn thing I'm getting great flavor and nice, warm, creamy vapor. Excellent.

 

[FL Lori]

Isn't innokin RMS? not PWM?

 

[FinallyQuit]

Lori, you know everything!!! I'm off to research, because I don't know nothing. . .

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/rader2146/3499-what-rms.html

Aha, it becomes clearer now! Well, clear as mud and a college science class can make it. . .

 

[aikanae1]

Yikes. I just read the wattage example with a 200 watt bulb or 15 watt bulb. Now my brain is fried.

I guess this is important to me because I'm maxed out on mods and I seriously can not get into buying the next best thing out there all the time. However, if something makes a difference between reaching for a vape instead of a smoke, I'm in beause I know that sometimes these subtlties can make a world of difference.

I hate making decisions and without trying things first, it feels like all I have to go on is blind faith - which is not exactly my strong suit. Ugh. I am pretty sure that Vamo, etc. can't duplicate what Innokin is doing.

 

[daleron]

Its only 800 mah and only goes down to 6watts. What wattage do you vape on. I vape lower than 6 so bill has mine.......

Does Bill have everything you own??

Okay. I'm back. Love this thing It's hefty, well made, cool to look at, and has cruise control. I set it at 9.5w and 4.0v and no matter what I put on the damn thing I'm getting great flavor and nice, warm, creamy vapor. Excellent.

Well congratulations Notorious I'm almost envious

Today's topic is waaaaaaaaaaaay over my head