Yes I still Smoke Cigarettes and I am addicted to the smoking habit - support and chat thread.

[JJ1977]

honestly, i'd make maybe 4 or 5 different 10ml batch then let them sit for a day cap and top off for ventilation. then vape each and see if its to my liking if not i note it and next batch gets tweeked. but taste is subjective everyone is going to have a different view on any given flavor, so start small and work your way til your happy. then vape away

 

[JJ1977]

i seem to like my diy flavors around 5% or less, at 10% it was WAY WAY too strong. but store bought vendors are fine at though. hmm. im just odd.

the flavors i use TD i never go over 3% on any flavor thats what i like. but others might like more/less% everything is subjective

 

[kittyn]

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Hah, my phone showed my thing as having double posted and evidently it wasn't? I don't know, there was a post of phone hate.

 

[JJ1977]

Most of the time I hand my spouse the phone and let him deal with it.

my wife does the same thing lol

 

[kittyn]

my wife does the same thing lol

Course! It's basic self preservation to not deal with that Crap (for some of us anyway). And in some instances, it saves time (we all know it's unlikely your mom is calling to talk to me, you probably didn't hear your phone, etc )

 

[Topdogie01]

my mom talks and talks.. AND her job is being phone support/training for her company, so im called late at night when everyone else is asleep. i get yelled at for talking to my mom, a 10 minute conversation takes atleast 30 minutes... my friends dont like talking on the phone much. i have a few friends who i can sit in comfortable silence with, mostly while we are playing games and just make wisecrack comments back and forth.

 

[ShariR]

I am bad. I am one of those talkers. Just like I am one of those long winded posters.

JJ - those flavors you sent me. What % do you use them at. The vanilla swirl, is that good alone or is that one of those that is more of a support flavor for others? I am still in the reading and planning stages. By next weekend I think I will be ready to make a first stab at something simple. Do you do your first batch with no nic. If you like it how do you incorporate nic into it? I have a little 50mg 100%pg nic and want to make something around 15 to 18% nic.

If I wanted to add some vanilla swirl flavoring to a vendor tobacco, say 5ml of the tobacco, would I start with 1% or 2% of the vanilla be enough to do it. Or am I off in left field somewhere.

 

[Topdogie01]

Shari, when im trying new flavors i make ~5ml of 0nic to test, leaving me room to tinker in the same bottle (adding more flavoring if its too weak, dilute if too strong) or if i like it as is then i can mix in my nic (+ a tiny bit of flavoring to keep same percentage). if i dont like the flavor and its a complete loss (hasnt happened yet, only been moved to the "when i cant taste anything" list") i can dump out the bottle and not feel bad about dumping nic.

 

[DoloresB]

Typically you buy: Concentrated Nic (its cheaper) suspended in PG or VG, 100% PG, 100% VG, sweetener, (ethal maltyl and / or Sucralose) and Flavoring. There are other agents that smooth, or sour flavors but those are best left for later if ever.

The process is figuring how much you want to make total, what Nic level you want, flavoring amount, (15-25% is norm) and what PG/VG you want it all to be. Plug all the values into a calculator, or use shortcuts like Lox's, mix it up, and shake the hell out of it.

Most of the art (work) comes in figuring out what percentage of flavor you like, and what percentage you need to blend 2 or more flavors together. All flavors are not created equal. So a good tip, is to mix small flavor batches with no nic before you make a larger batch with nic and flavored to your liking.

Clear as mud right?

Absolutely

I keep my DIY as simple as possible. The highest nic content I can get in these parts is 32 mg at 100% VG (50 mg is available, but only in 100% PG, which I can't tolerate). I use VG for all my mixing and diluting (and tobacco and coffee extractions, too). I keep my flavourings to 10% or less, to keep the PG content to a minimum.

For 5 ml of juice at 12 mg, I mix 2 ml nic juice, 2.5 ml VG, and 0.5 ml flavouring.

 

[ShariR]

This is a lot harder than cooking food and baking. At least there I have a real good idea of how a recipe is going to turn out and how to make a recipe up with the ingredients I have on hand. How do you figure out if your vanilla caramel coffee needs 3% of the coffee, 2% caramel and 2% vanilla, or the other way around. Or if it needs 5% coffee? This could take forever. And how long does this stuff have to steep? And do I use the ethyl maltol and sweetener or just one. What about the smooth stuff I have. Where does that come in? This is going to take more than forever.

Why am I doing this? Am I crazy? A calculator will do me no good if I have no idea on what percentages of what flavors I need to use to make up the whole. Do you guys all just 'wing it' or is there a general guideline as to what you want your dominant flavor to be and then what % you do the secondary flavors? I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of 'winging' going on in this neck of the woods.

 

[daleron]

Good morning everyone, have a wonderful day!

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[kittyn]

(Shhh...this is a secret...)

(I think if I get him either a better device with longer battery life/better vapor production or a couple more egos period and find another juice he likes that my husband is in danger of being on off those annoying 'accidentally quit smoking' people. As is he's showing classic bout to fully switch symptoms... ie, had a cig in one hand, lit and ignored while vaping with the other, complaining about cigs not tasting like freak show, and pretty much only habit smoking, particularly after meals.)

(...figures )

Okay. Now that I'm done airing the dirty laundry, as it were, good morning people. Wish I had as much good news on my front. I need to acquire some more batteries as I'm finding myself only using the Vamo and don't have enough back ups for that.

Getting ready to take little dude to school, need to clean my kitchen and go costume shopping for the girl at some point today (dropped the ball on making or assembling her one). Yay, fun day.

 

[daleron]

Ha ha Kittyn! I smell a change a coming

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[JJ1977]

I am bad. I am one of those talkers. Just like I am one of those long winded posters.

JJ - those flavors you sent me. What % do you use them at. The vanilla swirl, is that good alone or is that one of those that is more of a support flavor for others? I am still in the reading and planning stages. By next weekend I think I will be ready to make a first stab at something simple. Do you do your first batch with no nic. If you like it how do you incorporate nic into it? I have a little 50mg 100%pg nic and want to make something around 15 to 18% nic.

If I wanted to add some vanilla swirl flavoring to a vendor tobacco, say 5ml of the tobacco, would I start with 1% or 2% of the vanilla be enough to do it. Or am I off in left field somewhere.

making a new mix start at 8%, i usually start with 10ml test batch, that way i dont make to much in the beginning. i do incorp nicotine, after adding all ingredients let sit top/cap off for 24-36 hrs then test that batch. if adding to an existing mix then start at 1-2%

**edit** i do 2 stages i make the flavor mix and wait 10 minutes while swirling the mix in a flask to somewhat blend the ingredients together, once thats done mix it with the nic to the glass bottles then shake for bout a 10-30 seconds. i shake the mix every so often maybe 4-5 times then top/cap off for 24/36hrs

 

[FinallyQuit]

Good morning all! Kittyn, trust hubs to be one of those annoying people. Remind him that we all have our own path; no superiority allowed. On the costume front, the oldest is so over it, and the littlest has found fairy wings in the bowels of the closet. A frilly dress and a hideous home-made wand, happy happy and no shopping required this weekend.

Have the second cup of coffee next to me, and enough in the pot to fill the travel mug. Life is good!

Shari relax! DIY isn't going to be near as hard as you think it is, you just won't know until you do it a couple times. Remember keep notes, once you find the perfect percentage of each flavor "for YOU" then you'll know "okay, this vanilla shines at 7% and that Bavarian Cream at 5%. . ." then you'll be throwing together recipes with flair. Make some drain fluid too, that's a real learning experience!

Dale, your kitties and puppies are so adorable! Thanks for the smile this morning. Gotta get off my rear and go take care of my kitty and pups, hope you all have a great day today! Catch you later. . .

 

[daleron]

Try to have a good day FQ!

 

[JJ1977]

This is a lot harder than cooking food and baking.Why am I doing this? Am I crazy? A calculator will do me no good if I have no idea on what percentages of what flavors I need to use to make up the whole. Do you guys all just 'wing it' or is there a general guideline as to what you want your dominant flavor to be and then what % you do the secondary flavors? I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of 'winging' going on in this neck of the woods.

not really once you figure it out, its relatively easy i thought the same way you do now back then, now its like making my gift from willy wonka's chocolate factory waiting at the other end to see my results... as far as flavor goes if you want a tabacco with vanilla and idk say marshmallow lol of course tabacco is the main ingredient.
say you use your baccy at 10% / vanilla at 6-8% / marshmallow at 2-5% im just throwin it out there lol. only you can say well i want this flavor here and that flavor here.

 

[Erised]

Good Morning!

 

[kittyn]

Fairy wings are like glow sticks in my house..always present so if all else fails she can be a fairy (again), but I wanna go play with costume props anyway and see if anything looks awesome

 

[DoloresB]

This is a lot harder than cooking food and baking. At least there I have a real good idea of how a recipe is going to turn out and how to make a recipe up with the ingredients I have on hand. How do you figure out if your vanilla caramel coffee needs 3% of the coffee, 2% caramel and 2% vanilla, or the other way around. Or if it needs 5% coffee? This could take forever. And how long does this stuff have to steep? And do I use the ethyl maltol and sweetener or just one. What about the smooth stuff I have. Where does that come in? This is going to take more than forever.

Why am I doing this? Am I crazy? A calculator will do me no good if I have no idea on what percentages of what flavors I need to use to make up the whole. Do you guys all just 'wing it' or is there a general guideline as to what you want your dominant flavor to be and then what % you do the secondary flavors? I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of 'winging' going on in this neck of the woods.

Here is an ejuice recipe database that has interesting recipes, and easy to use:

E-Liquid Recipe Book | Your Online Place for All Your E-Liquid Recipes

Hope this helps a bit.