Yihi and dna chips

[Zutankhamun]

Can somebody explain why dna and yihi chips are so expensive when compared to other devices.
Particularly the sx minis and vaporsharks.

I only have one and it's an rdna 40 but it feels exactly the same as most others.
Aside from maybe a couple of watts; 13 watts on the dna, 11 watts on the sigelei tc etc...
But I don't use tc ever and so is the only difference the accuracy of the device?

Thanks

 

[Two_Bears]

Can somebody explain why dna and yihi chips are so expensive when compared to other devices.
Particularly the sx minis and vaporsharks.

I only have one and it's an rdna 40 but it feels exactly the same as most others.
Aside from maybe a couple of watts; 13 watts on the dna, 11 watts on the sigelei tc etc...
But I don't use tc ever and so is the only difference the accuracy of the device?

Thanks

At one time tge DNA 200 board was $80.

 

[Eskie]

At one time tge DNA 200 board was $80.

The newer DNA 250 is still about $70 retail.

 

[daviedog]

Like cars, at 30mph in traffic, same difference.

Now take the Maclaren & the Malibu to a racetrack..

 

[SteveS45]

I would think that building the interactive interface has an effect on cost plus the development required for the eScribe software.

 

[Zutankhamun]

Yeah but you lot have it good.
Over here dna 200 = £179.99
G-priv = £79.99 and that's with the tfv8

Yeah I know, it's a US company but wait

Yihi sx q-class = £152.10, aren't they a Far East company?

 

[Zutankhamun]

Like cars, at 30mph in traffic, same difference.

Now take the Maclaren & the Malibu to a racetrack..

Cool, so I would have to blast the dna @ 150+ to notice a difference?
I haven't used both but is it going to really be that different than the sigelei 150 @ 150.
Over £100 worth of difference?

 

[abn75]

They cost that much because people are willing to pay that much. Simple. If people weren't willing to, they wouldn't sell and the price would drop.

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[daviedog]

Cool, so I would have to blast the dna @ 150+ to notice a difference?
I haven't used both but is it going to really be that different than the sigelei 150 @ 150.
Over £100 worth of difference?

Not the DNA,, the YIHI. Yihi chip 350j, is as smooth at 60 or so watts as my mechs.
The DNA 200 is the only TC i've ever used that i like.

Are they worth the bucks?
Probably not..

 

[Steamer861]

Bottom Line, You get what you pay for!

 

[Eskie]

Bottom line for both the YiHi and DNA boards are they're designed for TC. If you plan on only using it in power mode, there's no reason to pay the premium. I don't have a YiHi mod to comment on, but the TC on my DNA mods is outstanding, and I use 316L SS without an issue.

Oh, and I like messing with eScribe as well.

 

[Zutankhamun]

Bottom line for both the YiHi and DNA boards are they're designed for TC. If you plan on only using it in power mode, there's no reason to pay the premium. I don't have a YiHi mod to comment on, but the TC on my DNA mods is outstanding, and I use 316L SS without an issue.

Oh, and I like messing with eScribe as well.

Damn. But they look so good.

 

[Eskie]

Damn. But they look so good.

That they do. There's nothing wrong with buying one if you want to pay for the looks. It's your wallet, and go for it understanding that's what you're paying for.

Maybe after you do get one, you'll check out TC and see if you like it. Honestly, it's pretty much all I use now. But I know you're a mech collector, and TC doesn't behave that way at all.

 

[Falco78]

Bottom line for both the YiHi and DNA boards are they're designed for TC. If you plan on only using it in power mode, there's no reason to pay the premium. I don't have a YiHi mod to comment on, but the TC on my DNA mods is outstanding, and I use 316L SS without an issue.

Oh, and I like messing with eScribe as well.

From a TC perspective what are your thoughts on a normal chip versus a DNA chip? Money is tight and I enjoy the TC on my non DNA chip but am wondering if I'd notice much of a difference with an upgrade to DNA

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[Eskie]

From a TC perspective what are your thoughts on a normal chip versus a DNA chip? Money is tight and I enjoy the TC on my non DNA chip but am wondering if I'd notice much of a difference with an upgrade to DNA

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TC can be OK on other chips, but generally run a bit "rough" in comparison. Hard to describe, but on the DNA board, you get tight regulation of the current to maintain the selected temperature/resistance (after all that's what the board is measuring and regulating of of). Some don't have preheat, which I find useful for larger mass coils. It's just a very smooth, very predicable vape, and no matter how long you hold the fire button, it won't get too hot the farther into the draw you get.

Other chips I've used include an Atheon in a CF4 18650 (OK TC, not terrific), Wismec boards in an RX200S and Presa (not bad, but I'd never trust the build quality for long term use) and a Smok board in an Alien. That one is kinda weird. I've been using it in TC with a SS notch coil and to me, the performance has been pretty good. Not a DNA but perfectly serviceable. HOWEVER, if you go to the Alien thread, you'll see some folks have serious issues with getting TC to work, so I won't vouch for it as my experience might just be the odd random board that was made that actually works.

The next big differentiating factor between DNA/non DNA is support. We all know lots of manufacturers that don't give the best support/warranty service. Evolv is very good about supporting their boards regardless of the builder, and I believe it's a one year warranty, but you can get your mod fixed if it craps out. Yihi also offers a 3 month warranty on the mod, but only if you bought it at the manufacturer's retail price and not if you get it on sale (that's what I've read, can't swear to that), which seems kinda crappy to me.

 

[Falco78]

TC can be OK on other chips, but generally run a bit "rough" in comparison. Hard to describe, but on the DNA board, you get tight regulation of the current to maintain the selected temperature/resistance (after all that's what the board is measuring and regulating of of). Some don't have preheat, which I find useful for larger mass coils. It's just a very smooth, very predicable vape, and no matter how long you hold the fire button, it won't get too hot the farther into the draw you get.

Other chips I've used include an Atheon in a CF4 18650 (OK TC, not terrific), Wismec boards in an RX200S and Presa (not bad, but I'd never trust the build quality for long term use) and a Smok board in an Alien. That one is kinda weird. I've been using it in TC with a SS notch coil and to me, the performance has been pretty good. Not a DNA but perfectly serviceable. HOWEVER, if you go to the Alien thread, you'll see some folks have serious issues with getting TC to work, so I won't vouch for it as my experience might just be the odd random board that was made that actually works.

The next big differentiating factor between DNA/non DNA is support. We all know lots of manufacturers that don't give the best support/warranty service. Evolv is very good about supporting their boards regardless of the builder, and I believe it's a one year warranty, but you can get your mod fixed if it craps out. Yihi also offers a 3 month warranty on the mod, but only if you bought it at the manufacturer's retail price and not if you get it on sale (that's what I've read, can't swear to that), which seems kinda crappy to me.

Well I am a SS user strictly anymore and if it'd provide an improved vape experience then I guess I need to start saving for one. If it's something I will see an improved experience and it lasts then saving is very worth while for me. Thanks for all of the info!

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[Zutankhamun]

That they do. There's nothing wrong with buying one if you want to pay for the looks. It's your wallet, and go for it understanding that's what you're paying for.

Maybe after you do get one, you'll check out TC and see if you like it. Honestly, it's pretty much all I use now. But I know you're a mech collector, and TC doesn't behave that way at all.

Not so much a collector but I do have a few lovely pieces. Talking of which, I dropped the top cap of my lord and now it's gone from a buttery smooth threading to a kinda iffy threading.
It's so slight that I don't think you would notice but I can feel it when I compare it to the kiss. I'm weird, I know.
But luckily enough, I think it's only damaged on the top cap so I'll have to buy a new one.

My plan is to buy a new paps soon and also buy a reg but the only one that I think looks good is the vaporshark to me.

Maybe I will buy one.
I'm behaving like there is cash to spare. I need some new socks without holes, but that's another I can put towards a mod...

 

[Eskie]

Vaporshark is, to my knowledge, very good about supporting their mods. I think that's important when you spend this kind of money on a regulated mod. I believe there were some cosmetic finish issues in the past which have been corrected. Again, check out the threads on it for accurate info before plopping down that much money.

One other thing, the battery regardless of type (18650 or Lipo packs) should be easy for the end user to replace. Again, IMO it's too much money to let it turn into a paperweight and it shouldn't require an expensive back to the manufacturer process for the pack to be replaced.

One other benefit is the DNA board was designed for balanced charging (essentially made with the intention that builders would be using internal Lipo packs) so usb charging is very reliable. And on the new DNA 250, they upped it from 1A to a 2A charge. Nice extra feature if you don't feel like rotating batteries, or packing a battery charger if you're traveling.

 

[Two_Bears]

They cost that much because people are willing to pay that much. Simple. If people weren't willing to, they wouldn't sell and the price would drop.

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Absolutely correct. Things are worth only what Someone is willing to pay

 

[opticruby]

I used to wander exactly the saame thing as you,@Zutankhamun, about DNA and YI-lHI boards. Then I got a VT75 (middle of last year), to try out and very quickly started buying DNA devices, lol.

For me it was e-scribe that got me hooked on DNA chip-sets.

As for: is the asking price worth it?, to me it is because mods with DNA chip-sets I find are generally better mods anyways.