My mods are all of higher quality than the Provari's I own. Fail to see the point.
For a list of Us made VV/VW devices...
Mamu makes custom dna20 mods.
Reo grand VV and Woodvil VV
Boggerbox DNA20
Fazedboxmods
Buzz Pro
Darwin
Any mech mod with a kick inside it.
Soon to be available:
Match made dna20 module for Super T devices.
Cyborg from fluid vapors
Many DNA20 based mods too many to list.
Also the board doesn't have any significant power draw that another regulated mod doesn't have. It just has features and is US made electronics, not just assembled in the US.
It is fact that the build quality is higher on many devices, in this case it's not subjective.
My mods are all of higher quality than the Provari's I own. Fail to see the point....
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Since it seems public open forums are the places of choice to do this such as new members, general ecig, etc I figured I would extend the same courtesy here.
A lot of those devices exist. Cyborg has been mentioned in the $250 range. It also is a fully functional mech if you remove the module.
Super t precise or ELA + dna20 module will be very close to a provari in price. Last provari I picked up was $211 for color + 18650 cap, did not drop the $15 for a blue screen.
Darwin includes batteries and charger.
I really don't need to go down the list, you guys preach quality I'm saying for right around the same price but a much higher quality device.
DNA20 mods don't have huge voltage drains. I can ask owners and double check but I'm sure I'd have heard about it.
I'm just stating some facts, kind of like the opposite of what "Provarians" do whenever anyone brings up one and says something negative. Since it seems public open forums are the places of choice to do this such as new members, general ecig, etc I figured I would extend the same courtesy here.
Mine didn't cost that much.
I don't have a problem with a Darwin, it looks like it should appeal to a lot of people. I don't want one however. It is also $258.00
The Cyborg is not ready for sale yet. I might like it just fine, I understand it is a little large but perhaps not too much. It is also expensive. Buying and trying all of those mods would be quite expensive. I stopped when I found something that worked for me.
What isn't the point is assuming what works for you is the best device period and that everyone should buy it rather than anything else. All I'm pointing out is that there are a lot of options and for MANY the Provari isnt the best.
I just didn't have the patience to keep buying one item after another to meet what I wanted. I was so happy that I happened onto one that did. There might be better things out there but I found something that works. The search can be far more expensive than the device.
When someone asks about the Provari I am afraid to tell them what I think anymore. I don't even want to post that I quit buying things for my desk anymore (a desk based unit for while working was what I was looking for at the time). I do want to post when I see people say it is complicated but I quit doing that. I also want to post when people say it is big and clunky but I don't anymore. I should get a sig line that says I really don't have a Provari but that would be a lie. I did give one away though.
Again you are making this a "you" thing. By all means discuss what you like, the issue I have is when no weight is placed in what the person is really looking for. You want a hands free device which I can think of quite a few that would be suitable, would recommending a Caravela with a Hellfire mega make any sense no matter how much I liked it?
This is not a you thing, but I've seen it far too many times. There are even some users who have entire pre typed pages of info that sounds like it's known fact even though it's based solely on their limited experiences and include the Provari in them. I know what I like but I don't recommend it unless it fits the criteria, and yes I've recommended Provari's before on occasion.
Proving that a person with anti-Provari sentiments can make it personal rather than rational. Got to be something wrong with those who "blindly" think a solid, USA-made, metal device with a track record of durability is worth a premium price, right?If you have tried any mech with rba and know better.
If you realize it's a $90-$110 pv selling for $160 bare bones.
If you realize you can buy like 5 VV/VW devices for the same price, or one infinitely better DNA20 mod for the same price.
If you don't want to be associated with blind fan boys recommending it to anyone and everyone they see without even qualifying if it's right for them.
If you have ever held a true high end PV before.
Proving that a person with anti-Provari sentiments can make it personal rather than rational. Got to be something wrong with those who "blindly" think a solid, USA-made, metal device with a track record of durability is worth a premium price, right?
Nothing wrong with feeling that other choices are better economically, but where's the love? Venom does not constitute justification of opinion.
Frankly, I don't find opinions which belittle other people for their opinions to be an objective approach. You are obviously very knowledgeable regarding APVs but you also could, in my opinion, provide more solid reasoning for why you like the devices that you find more economical and/or more capable than the Provari. I did appreciate your listing of USA-made mods, and checked out some videos of DNA20 models based on your praise of them. If you don't mind could you tell me why you feel that the wattage-maintaining circuitry on the DNA20 is superior to the wattage-maintaining circuitry on, let's say, a Vamo? Would it matter to someone like me who only vapes with single-coil delivery devices at 6.5 to 7.5 watts, and if so, why?How can I be anti provari I own two. I'm realistic and objective which is something sorely lacking in many provari fanatics.
... You have seen the light of mechanical vaping and love to tinker with things
Sorry to say folks but I'm gonna have to remit my Provari owners club card. My gf didn't like the mini, she actually likes her spinners and twists more, they are less complicated and cheaper to replace if she ever misplaces it. She found out how much I paid for it and insisted I keep it since I was so enthusiastic about its unparalleled build quality. To my surprise I didn't want to keep it either, lol, so I'm trading it for an Electric Angel telescope.
I really don't believe there is a better built VV mod on the market right now, just wanted to share my in regards to the notion that it's not actually the end-all-be-all device for everyone.
VAPE ON!!