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eHuman

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To be perfectly honest and coming from experience with 3.7v, VV and VW PVs, having 3000 classroom hours in Military advanced electronics training as well as 28 years practical application and a US patent utilizing that training to boot;
You can't do anything with VW that can't be done with VV.
VW ability allows you to either:
1. Not have to think, or
2. Not know how and still git-r-done.
Due to the technology available to the layman, and the lack of interest in or knowledge of the theory, ability and application of our devices; In the end, most people keep dialing their APV until they find what they like. They stick with or around that setting and try to convince everyone else why their (purely subjective and relative ) setting is better than everyone else's. That goes for both VV and VW modes.

If you don't care to know how and why it works, then what voltage, current, resistance and power are really doing for you is a moot point. Find your sweet spot and vape on.

If you understand the differences and technology, then you can do exactly the same thing with VV that you can with VW, it's pretty much as easy as driving a manual transmission vs a automatic one. Once you learn how you never ever think about it you just do it.

If you want the luxury of an automatic tranny with cruise control then use a VW PV. If you don't mind shifting a gear stick to optimize performance then use a VV.

Note:
Most VW APVs have essentially 25 preset positions available to you, 3 to 15 watts in .5w increments.
Most VV APVs have essentially 31 preset positions available to you, 3 to 6 volts in .1v increments.
The Provari having 32 since it can be used at 2.9v

Since all cars can drive you to where you want to go, what you are really discussing now is, "How nice of a ride do I want to get me there?"
There are a few things that go into that decision:
How much am I willing to spend?
Do I want economy, luxury, dependability, high quality, least expensive to buy, least expensive to operate and maintain, or ridiculous vanity eye candy?

All that being said (and as a non Provari owner, and maybe never will be), I don't liken the Provari to a $200k - $400k dollar car, but more to nice solid BMW. A Ford escort is cheaper and can get you any place the BMW can but the BMW can do it with more style and dependability, having more engineering behind it and retaining a superior resale value.

Why in the world anyone would start 2 different threads asking everyone to convince him to buy a BMW because the Honda and Toyota he has in the garage doesn't satisfy his "the grass is greener on the other side of the fence" syndrome, it's beyond me. It too will turn brown if you don't water it.

I'm not trying to be mean but I will be straight; There are other ways to get attention bro.

If I can convince you to spend your money on something that would be very nice to have but you don't need, send me the cash. I've been out of work for 2 years. Otherwise just buy the thing and enjoy it.
 
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To be perfectly honest and coming from experience with 3.7v, VV and VW PVs, having 3000 classroom hours in Military advanced electronics training as well as 28 years practical application and a US patent utilizing that training to boot;
You can't do anything with VW that can't be done with VV.
VW ability allows you to either:
1. Not have to think, or
2. Not know how and still git-r-done.
Due to the technology available to the layman, and the lack of interest in or knowledge of the theory, ability and application of our devices; In the end, most people keep dialing their APV until they find what they like. They stick with or around that setting and try to convince everyone else why their (purely subjective and relative ) setting is better than everyone else's. That goes for both VV and VW modes.

If you don't care to know how and why it works, then what voltage, current, resistance and power are really doing for you is a moot point. Find your sweet spot and vape on.

If you understand the differences and technology, then you can do exactly the same thing with VV that you can with VW, it's pretty much as easy as driving a manual transmission vs a automatic one. Once you learn how you never ever think about it you just do it.

If you want the luxury of an automatic tranny with cruise control then use a VW PV. If you don't mind shifting a gear stick to optimize performance then use a VV.

Note:
Most VW APVs have essentially 25 preset positions available to you, 3 to 15 watts in .5w increments.
Most VV APVs have essentially 31 preset positions available to you, 3 to 6 volts in .1v increments.
The Provari having 32 since it can be used at 2.9v

Since all cars can drive you to where you want to go, what you are really discussing now is, "How nice of a ride do I want to get me there?"
There are a few things that go into that decision:
How much am I willing to spend?
Do I want economy, luxury, dependability, high quality, least expensive to buy, least expensive to operate and maintain, or ridiculous vanity eye candy?

All that being said (and as a non Provari owner, and maybe never will be), I don't liken the Provari to a $200k - $400k dollar car, but more to nice solid BMW. A Ford escort is cheaper and can get you any place the BMW can but the BMW can do it with more style and dependability, having more engineering behind it and retaining a superior resale value.

Why in the world anyone would start 2 different threads asking everyone to convince him to buy a BMW because the Honda and Toyota he has in the garage doesn't satisfy his "the grass is greener on the other side of the fence" syndrome, it's beyond me. It too will turn brown if you don't water it.

I'm not trying to be mean but I will be straight; There are other ways to get attention bro.

If I can convince you to spend your money on something that would be very nice to have but you don't need, send me the cash. I've been out of work for 2 years. Otherwise just buy the thing and enjoy it.

Amen! and Well said!!
 

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I have a kick now, my 1st variable wattage device.. and i dont even like it for switching things.
I set it to where I like it on one atomizer and then its too powerful on another atomizer. -__-
So I just use variable voltage for the most part and I keep the kick where its at and dont switch things out.

There are different variables for what voltage I want my heads at.
If the atomizer is flooded, I pump the voltage up so the coils get rid of the excess juice instead of gurgling.
Then I put the voltage back down and drip accordingly.
Of course with my kicked devices, now when i put a new head on it, and its too powerful, I adjust my draw length..
But I mean, it'd be easier to just NOT have too much power going to my atomizer in the 1st place..
Or too little and then have to take the kick out and adjust it rather than just putting my voltage up or down.

Idk man. Just me rambling. I'll have to try a proper vw device one of these days.
 
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Well it seems as though I have ruffled some feathers here and that was certainly not the intention of the post... In all honesty I am on the fence about this thing... I want to buy a mod that will be the end all of be all and was hoping the Provari would be that mod because of how everyone raves about them... I was just looking for some honest insight as to why everyone loves them so. I appreciate everyones input... even the ones that are tired of seeing my posts... I promise you this is the last one I will make about the Provari until I pull the trigger and get one... then we will find out whether or not I made the right decision for me.
 
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