Youde Goblin, Vertical coils.

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I posted this in the Goblin thread, but it's so active I figured it may get lost in the shuffle, so I'm posting it as a thread.

Alright, here we are. I think I've got a good one here. Wicking vertical coils in the Youde Goblin.


Thanks to the earlier poster who suggested an around the coil wick, I gave it a try.


First, look at all this space! These are 2mm coils, and there's room to play. I like that. (Sorry about the giant images, I'll likely fix that later.)



First, I cut some little tufts of cotton the length of the chimney.



I took these tufts, and placed them how I want them in the juice channel, along the coil.



Note, that step is a pain in the but. But if you place them, and then put a drop of juice bridging the coil and the cotton, it will hold it in place.
Then I screwed the chimney on, careful not to disturb the cotton.



Then, I wet the wick, and using a flat blade screwdriver, pushed the cotton against the coil, trying to cover as much of the outside of the coil as I could.



Put it together, and it's great. Dense flavorful vapor. The only thing restricting airflow here is going to be the coil diameter.


Hopefully this helps.
 

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Yes, I think you could, and I think I will the next time I wick it. There is more room with the vertical coils than with the horizontal. I might avoid placing anything over the top of the coil though, that's where all of your airflow is going.

I might note I put just a little too much wick in the juice channel. It hasn't been a problem, but it could be.
 

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Define better?

You can fit the coils easier, as you wont be as close to the chimney. It cooled my vape which was previously very hot on a horizontal .5 ohm build (The verticals came out at .4). It's far less likely to block airflow, as some of my horizontal setups did.

Otherwise, it vapes well, with dense vapor and lots of flavor. I've also noticed it doesn't pop and crackle like my horizontal coils did for whatever reason.
 

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It's a nice looking build by the way! Just wondering why it was better for you and you clarified what's different ie the problems it solved. That's what I wanted to know. Thanks.
Verticals are not something I'm comfortable with yet so this could be frustrating for me but if it's worth it than I'd try it.
 

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I had that happen when I tried to put more cotton around the coils. I'm not really sure why it did that either. Keep in mind you have to get all the o-rings seated properly on the Goblin. Also, make sure you screw the chimney top down tight. If there's a gap, it wont seal perfectly. Kinda interesting how all of the goblins have this potential.

Honestly, on mine I think the oring for the bottom glass got knicked from an old piece of glass remaining there when I broke my original glass. Noticed it when I was reassembling after building it again. Took it out. Might have caused an issue.

But, it seems that too much cotton can cause leaking in the goblins as well, so I'd make sure you use as little cotton as will complete the build.
 

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i finally got my wick working right in my vertical coils, but i put my cotton in after the low chimney on and i push the cotton down from the center of the piece of cotton so it makes a "U" shape. also i use smallest flat head screwdriver i have. (i think it is 1.2mm) by doing it this way it allowed me to cover the juice channels evenly so i don't get a leaking tank. While at the same time allows the wick to stay straight and fluffy. once you have the wick in. move the tails of the wick around the coil to make for more surface area. done.

i have gone through a couple tanks of juice now 20/80 pg/vg. tested up to 60w (.4omh build. 26 guage 6/7 wrap spaced coils) got no dry hits and no leaking.( although i think if left the tank laying on its side it may leak. idk)
 

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Nice, I wasn't sure if that would work when I tried it. Mostly because I wasn't sure if it would put any in the juice channels, and I found I needed some to prevent leaking.

it may depend on the vg/pg ratio of the juice to decide weather or not to get the wick into the channels. but at least this way if your juice is thin all you have to do is push the bottom oannel givinf the "u" shaped wick into the channel. making more resistances for the juice.
 
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for a 65/35 vg/pg wicking the way i did. i probably srtill wouldn't push it in to the channel. just make sure the wick stays fluffy on each end of the "U" as you just it down to the bottom of the desk. then using the flat head screw driver just kinda feel that the bottom of the "U" is covering the juice channel, but don't sit there trying to be super prefect about it as you'll end up pack the cotton to tight.
 
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OK..well I built it 26g at 2mm with 9 wraps running at .40. I thought that I may have stuffed too much cotton in it but I've been chain vaping for the past 5 mins and not a single dry hit. I have even noticed that I have been getting more bubbles rising that usual without it leaking, so it' wicking real nice! However, I do find it to be a bit more of a constrictive draw but I bet it would be perfect at 2.5mm. Thanks for sharing!:toast:
 

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OK..well I built it 26g at 2mm with 9 wraps running at .40. I thought that I may have stuffed too much cotton in it but I've been chain vaping for the past 5 mins and not a single dry hit. I have even noticed that I have been getting more bubbles rising that usual without it leaking, so it' wicking real nice! However, I do find it to be a bit more of a constrictive draw but I bet it would be perfect at 2.5mm. Thanks for sharing!:toast:

2.4-2.5mm will be the largest you fit. and its also the least air restrictive of any build.
which wicking method did you try?
 

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2.4-2.5mm will be the largest you fit. and its also the least air restrictive of any build.
which wicking method did you try?
Once I had the coils in I screwed the chimny on and then took small bits of cotton and roll the tip slightly and stuffed it down filling the entire side of the empty space next to the coil. I snipped off the excess and repeat. Like I said, I thoug I over stuffed but it's been working great.
 
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So I have been vaping this build all day and love it,the only thing that was bothering me was the airflow. Not bad, but I just wanted more air so I tried a build thats pretty sweet. I used a 7/64th or 2.78mm bit using 26g with 7 wraps. As you can see in the pics, the air hole in the Goblin is exactly 7/64th. I first tried the build with 9 wraps but the chimney cap would touch the top of the coil so I used 7 wraps and the bottom coil is just barely off the deck.


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You can see in this pic the light coming through the bottom of the air hole.

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With this build there is no air obstruction what so ever. However, there is no room for error here. There is only a hairs width of space between the coil and the chimney but the air flow does not get any more open than this. BTW I have had no problem with leaks or dry hits at all,

Thanks again thx for sharing, this will be my only build on this from now on.
 

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So I have been vaping this build all day and love it,the only thing that was bothering me was the airflow. Not bad, but I just wanted more air so I tried a build thats pretty sweet. I used a 7/64th or 2.78mm bit using 26g with 7 wraps. As you can see in the pics, the air hole in the Goblin is exactly 7/64th. I first tried the build with 9 wraps but the chimney cap would touch the top of the coil so I used 7 wraps and the bottom coil is just barely off the deck.


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You can see in this pic the light coming through the bottom of the air hole.

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With this build there is no air obstruction what so ever. However, there is no room for error here. There is only a hairs width of space between the coil and the chimney but the air flow does not get any more open than this. BTW I have had no problem with leaks or dry hits at all,

Thanks again thx for sharing, this will be my only build on this from now on.

can't beleive you got 7/64 in there as soon as i go from 2.4 to 2.5mm im touching something. nice work bro.
 
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