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    Ya know.. back in the day we already had a mascot to cover stuff like this... just saying no need to re-invent the wheel.:D
     

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    Chiisaiinu

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    What I'm afraid of is the day the USCPSC decides to ban the sale of 18650/21700 li-ion batts to US consumers, leaving us no choice but to harvest them from power tool battery packs.
    Laptop battery packs are cheap option too. Usually they are 6-8 of them in a "pack" and they are wired in series so they are pre-married ;)
     

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    What I'm afraid of is the day the USCPSC decides to ban the sale of 18650/21700 li-ion batts to US consumers, leaving us no choice but to harvest them from power tool battery packs.
    Let's hope that the tactical flashlight lobby has more organization than the vape lobby
     

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    Let's hope that the tactical flashlight lobby has more organization than the vape lobby
    Also as a side note I don't hear a lot of about people setting things on fire or things being set on fire in the external battery vape world though of course it is possible. What I do here about at least once or twice a month is a Tesla setting on fire.

    Now I concede that the usage and the danger zones for the two products are significantly different but not all of these Teslas have been in some sort of accident when they decide to become a massive chemical fire. Aren't the Tesla batteries the same and aren't they in a safety pack? Does that mean that vape mods mask produce vape mods have better safety features than a Tesla? Or am I just confusing two things that really have nothing to do with one another? Which is completely possible because I know next to nothing about Tesla's
     
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    Also as a side note I don't hear a lot of about people setting things on fire or things being set on fire in the external battery vape world though of course it is possible.


    Well remember the Samsung phone battery debacle years ago? And those weren't even user-removable batteries. Just up and exploded on people. I forget what specific galaxy model it was, bu it was probably over 5 years ago now.
     

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    Also as a side note I don't hear a lot of about people setting things on fire or things being set on fire in the external battery vape world though of course it is possible. What I do here about at least once or twice a month is a Tesla setting on fire.

    Now I concede that the usage and the danger zones for the two products are significantly different but not all of these Teslas have been in some sort of accident when they decide to become a massive chemical fire. Aren't the Tesla batteries the same and aren't they in a safety pack? Does that mean that vape mods mask produce vape mods have better safety features than a Tesla? Or am I just confusing two things that really have nothing to do with one another? Which is completely possible because I know next to nothing about Tesla's

    Each Tesla has approximately 3000 18650s (they're starting to use 21700s now too) which makes the risk a bit more elevated if something does go wrong.
     

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    Well remember the Samsung phone battery debacle years ago? And those weren't even user-removable batteries. Just up and exploded on people. I forget what specific galaxy model it was, bu it was probably over 5 years ago now.

    It was one of the Note line.
     
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    Laptop battery packs are cheap option too. Usually they are 6-8 of them in a "pack" and they are wired in series so they are pre-married ;)
    Modern laptops don't use 18650s, they use custom-made pouch cells. Older laptop packs were never high-drain cells. Power-tool packs do use high-drain cells and would be a much better choice.
     

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    Each Tesla has approximately 3000 18650s (they're starting to use 21700s now too)
    The Model S and X used close to 7000 than 3000 18650s. But just like laptops, they aren't very high-drain / high-current cells. 21700s are used in the Model 3 and Model Y. But Tesla's new hotness is 4680 cells, which are just starting production. Not a great size for vaping, IMO -- too fat.
     

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    The Model S and X used close to 7000 than 3000 18650s. But just like laptops, they aren't very high-drain / high-current cells. 21700s are used in the Model 3 and Model Y. But Tesla's new hotness is 4680 cells, which are just starting production. Not a great size for vaping, IMO -- too fat.

    Thanks, Elon! :D

    All this time, I never knew you were him. ;)

    Make us some batteries, wouldya?
     
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