Zenesis Informational/Help thread. Please Post questions and answers here.

[fearofnormalcy]

SUCCESS!!!

Thank you tybin for your pointers.

I took your suggestions, but I also decided to take the device apart, and it was then that I noticed something: At some point I must have screwed a carto down too tight, because it had pushed the contact that touches the part of the battery down a bit, and there was a slight gap between it and the white (delrin?) piece on the bottom of the tank.

I pushed it back in, and when I screwed the carto back into the 510 connection, I placed my finger on the bottom contact to make sure I didn't over tighten this time so it would stay flush.

Filled the tank again, and now I'm getting fantastic performance again.

The only questions I guess I still have are:

1. Is that bottom contact supposed to move, or was it my user error? If it isn't, should I replace it?
2. If that was indeed the problem, how would that affect the performance?

In any event, at least I know how to get the great vape I wanted out of the Zen Carto.

Now it's time to order a Z-Atty for this bad boy.....

 

[tybin]

glad it's working. I'm not sure on your question. might be good to contact ENS via email on that

 

[Carsnake61]

How would I soak the switch and with what solution? Should I also make sure the inside is clean?

 

[anotheraznguy]

has anyone else noticed that w/ the z2 system there isnt any ventilation? w/ the top cap removed and i suck on the tube it keeps a vaccum for a while.

is anyone concerned about that?

 

[tybin]

pure grain alcohol or 90% iso. alcohol for the switch. i would clean the inside with hot soapy water and let dry--but what unit are you cleaning????

How would I soak the switch and with what solution? Should I also make sure the inside is clean?

 

[tybin]

oh believe me. it will be one of the safest tubes you will use, provided it's used as directed.Mike's professional background deems it that he would consider safety above all else. Give ENS a ring. They will expain anything ya want

has anyone else noticed that w/ the z2 system there isnt any ventilation? w/ the top cap removed and i suck on the tube it keeps a vaccum for a while.

is anyone concerned about that?

Z2 Pipe bomb edition?

 

[Carsnake61]

So the switch should be taken completely apart and soaked in alcohol? Then clean the tube in soapy water, A Zenesis 2 Brevis.

 

[anotheraznguy]

so does anyone know if the stock spring in the zenesis 2 is current limiting? anyone know of a brass replacement spring?

 

[tybin]

it sure can

So the switch should be taken completely apart and soaked in alcohol? Then clean the tube in soapy water, A Zenesis 2 Brevis.

 

[Carsnake61]

Frustrated with my Zenesis 2, I have cleaned the tube and switch and still cannot get a consistent vape. I have taken it to a shop in Costa Mesa and San Diego to have them take a look and see what is wrong. Both seem to think there is a short some where. Each of them have rebuilt my coil and you can push the button and sometimes it will work but most times it doesn't. It is a great mod when working, just want to be able to push and slide button and and it work each time instead of it becoming a shelf queen or paper weight.

 

[inter_ceptor00]

has anyone else noticed that w/ the z2 system there isnt any ventilation? w/ the top cap removed and i suck on the tube it keeps a vaccum for a while.

is anyone concerned about that?

I'm gonna guess they are like the original Zens in that they are supposed to vent out the sides of the bottom button.

 

[madmanmatt]

so ive got a z2 carto system with 18650 tube. its not hitting very good. best way to describe is with the exact same battery. the z2 with 1.7 smoteck carto will vape the same as a boge 2.3 ohm in my bam. its like im loosing half a volt or something, if that makes since. works good with kick. just not so with 18650

 

[jayD]

Hello friends, zen vapes are well known for several things. Severe voltage drops caused by the use of amp limiting springs and poorly conducting round screws, instead of flat ones. The positive pin connector is also not even sanded flat, so you just get a very small edge of the screw making contact. Another thing that Zens are known for is battery rattle, zen prefers people to deal with rattle than to provide an adjustable screw. His solution is to use more washers in your switch, which will change the switch throw, which may not be what you want simply for the device to be usable. If you want a zen to hit hard and consistent look up Todd's review of the sidewinder, he provides all the parts needed to upgrade your screws to brass. Another options is to replace the current limiting spring in the switch with magnets.

I did get some custom adjustable screws made for the switch, and I switched my gold plated contacts for brass ones and it works much better now, which is hilarious considering brass is cheaper, and gold is supposedly more conductive. Gold plated round contacts are pointless when they barely make contact. I feel like zen is taking advantage of his cult like followers. Who seem unable to give any critical review of zen products.

 

[madmanmatt]

thanks jayd, ordered a brass screw and going to try to find a brass one for the carto positive screw

 

[Len Warren]

BAM #75 stolen last month at buffalo wild wings in trusville, al If you hear anything about it let me know.

 

[anotheraznguy]

thanks jayd, ordered a brass screw and going to try to find a brass one for the carto positive screw

where did you get the brass screw?

and couldnt we just replace that spring w/ another spring or do we need to go w/ magnets?

 

[jayD]

Here is the magnets info.

here it is:
Q~ The switch on my Zenesis is too hard/easy to press. Can it be adjusted?

A~ All switches will have magnets in them that allow for adjust-ability. The switches are shipped at medium force. Adjust the force of your switch by switching the magnets as follows-

High resistance = large magnet in the button end with the two thin magnets on the screw post resisting.
Medium resistance = Large and thin magnet on the button end with one thin magnet on the screw post resisting.
Low resistance = Large magnet in button end with one thin magnet on the screw post resisting.
*if you need to replace a magnet, the sizes are 1/2" x 1/4" x 1/8" and 1/2" x 1/4" x 1/16" (O.D X hole x thickness)

All future Zenesis models will come with a spring switch instead of magnetic. (10/3/12)

You could indeed replace the spring with something that doesn't limit the current, the reason I was told that it uses one is because for zen to be insured it was needed. I find this reasoning strange because other American mod makers who are also insured are not required to have massive voltage loss as a per-requisite to their mods.

 

[madmanmatt]

where did you get the brass screw?

and couldnt we just replace that spring w/ another spring or do we need to go w/ magnets?

electronicstix has brass screws and steel springs

 

[madmanmatt]

Here is the magnets info.




You could indeed replace the spring with something that doesn't limit the current, the reason I was told that it uses one is because for zen to be insured it was needed. I find this reasoning strange because other American mod makers who are also insured are not required to have massive voltage loss as a per-requisite to their mods.

is there anywhere you can order these, our do I just need to look around

 

[odogg_mia]

ENS Thank you first for posting this help thread
I recently traded with JunkyRock13 for his ZEN~2 The Works #42 and the gold plating is starting to come off and some tape I had on it pulled a lot off the gen. I was directed to contact you about a possible plating fix that was happening and to see if I could get mine taken care of please Thanks again for everything, I and I'm sure everyone on here appreciate all you do for the community. Thanks again