The Lurker Thread

Good evening, Dale and lurkers :wub:

Glad it's cooled off a bit for you guys. Anyone dealing with the haze from Canada? I've been dealing with headaches on and off for the past week and a half. Hopefully the wind changes soon.

Safe travels, Rat2. Have fun and keep us posted on Perry. Hoping the visit goes well.

Hope you all are having a nice weekend.

INNOKIN COOLFIRE P60 KIT REVIEWED BY BIGBOB2322

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These pods use a great top fill method with the rubber plug and refill's are done mess free, I also like that the pods are clear. Because of the design there is no sure way of checking pod capacity levels with a quick glance so I suggest pulling the pod and checking juice levels often.

I personally think the Coolfire P60 works better as a RDL device rather than a MTL device because the mouthpiece for me has too large of a diameter that makes precise airflow adjustments harder than they should be. For MTL you either get a very airy loose vape or a very tight vape. I really like the lock switch and it's position on the device, remember to activate the auto draw before locking buttons.




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FINAL IMPRESSIONS


I really like the design of the Coolfire P60 and the features it has, the top fill works fine but I wish I could see the entire pod for viewing juice levels.

I also wish the draw tube had a more narrow bore to it or used replaceable drip tips, I think that would solve the airy airflow issue when using it in MTL.

The display screen is fine but on the darker side, once it's set battery level is really all you look at anyway and it shows alright.

This device is really very simple to operate and that's another plus for it. It really works very well in RDL mode and puts out good flavor.

I would like to thank Alisa and Innokin for sending the Coolfire P60 for review, and thank you to all of you that read my reviews.


THANK YOU
BIGBOB2322

Hi all,

Rta or RDA and diy. Rebuildables (no cartridge or pod) use entirely commodity material so they’re much much cheaper.
You do have to get your fingers messy every few days though.
Your continuing costs are cotton balls (1 bag is good for multiple years) 316L stainless wire ( again multiple years), Pg and VG (~$30/gal.)liquid nic (which is actually the most expensive bit) at -$50/ half liter, and flavoring, call it $6/oz it can go higher or lower depending on what you get

For lowest starter hardware cost you could get 3capo squonker kits from wetvapes on clearance for $5a piece. The capo comes with one battery but it’s crap. Goes down to like 1600mah quickly. You can use the mod as a charger and charge two while you are vaping one. Another way to do it is get one mod kit, and 2 more 20700/21700 batteries and a 4bay charger from somewhere else. Pricier, but you minimize the crap battery. That’s ftm though and as low as you can go.

I got a couple much more standard mods from them for more money, and some RTAs. Still on clearance so below standard prices but they had regular mods there. I don’t know why exactly the capos are $5/piece. They’re more commonly 8 times that. I bought 4. Also don’t bother with the maze, I bought ALL their coils. Well I guess it’s not that bad. 50¢ for an atty with2 coils. GL finding more though. The maze is not a rebuildable.

More normally a rta rig is $~30+ for the atty, ~40+ for the mod, batteries are ~6+ each and a charger is ~15+. These are the numbers I did the math with. The wetvapes clearance section is an anomaly.
Wow, that’s a ton of useful detail, really appreciate you breaking it all down like that! I can see how the upfront “messy fingers” work pays off big time in the long run. I’m curious, if you were starting fresh today, would you still go with something like the Capo squonker, or is there a current RTA/RDA setup you think beats it for value?

Smoant Knight AIO - Review by Ben28


Smoant Knight AIO
Today I bring you a new Boro-style AIO from the brand Smoant. In this case, it's the Smoant Knight AIO, which is compatible with all Boro tanks, such as those from Vandy Vape or the Lost Vape Centaurus Boro (among many others). It's powered by a removable 18650 battery and can reach a power of 90W, in addition to other interesting features.

Thanks to Sourcemore for making this review possible. With the code SKAK, the price of the Smoant Knight will be reduced to $35.79. You can visit their page to learn more about the Smoant Knight AIO.

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Brand
Product Name
Knight AIO Kit
Pod Capacity
5ml
Screen
0.49 inch OLED
Temperature Range
100-300℃/200-600℉
Size
96.4*51*26.3mm
Coil Resistance
0.05-3.0Ω
Compatible Coils
Compatible with K Series Coils
Charging Current
5V/2A
Power Output
5-90W
Output Mode
VW/VV/DVW/BYPASS/NI/TI/SS/TCR
Battery
1*External 18650 (not included)
Material
Aluminum Alloy + PCTG
Chip
AI smart ANT chip
Color
Moonlight Silver, Emerald Green, Tiffany Blue, Misty Gray, Deep Sea Blue, Rose Pink, Monet Purple, Titanium Gray
Package Size
124.5*107.5*38mm (1pc, 255g)

Features
  • 1. Blending cutting-edge technology and mechanical art
  • 2. 0.49 inch OLED screen
  • 3. 8 different output modes
  • 4. 90W max output power
  • 5. Compatible with K series coil
  • 6. Replaceable 18650 battery (not included)
  • 7. 5ml large pod capacity
  • 8. Back & side filling slots
  • 9. Adjustable airflow control, MTL-DTL vaping styles
  • 10. Fully visible cartridge
  • 11. Compatible with all Boro Tanks
  • 12. Adopted with transparent coating with rugged aluminum alloy
  • 13. Safety protection: Reverse-Battery/Short-Circuit/Over-Discharge/10S Overtime/Over-Charge/Open-Circuit/Childproof Protection

Packaging
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We'll start the review with a quick description of the packaging. The device comes in a square white box, with a window through which we can see the Knight. The top of the box shows the device's name and the bottom right has some branding. I like this style of packaging—they've kept it very simple yet very elegant.

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On the back, we find a brief summary of this device's features. Just below, we can see the contents of the box:
  • 1 Knight AIO Mod​
  • 1 Drip Tip​
  • 1 Knight AIO Cartridge​
  • 1 K-2 Coil 0.4Ω​
  • 1 K-5 Coil 0.15Ω​
  • 1 Type-C Cable​
  • 1 User Manual​
  • 1 Brand Card​
If we keep looking down, we'll find several contact addresses, a barcode, a QR code to verify that the product isn't counterfeit, and a few more logos.

Device
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I'll show you the screen and fire button now. As you can see at first glance, the device is made of two parts: one from aluminum alloy and the other from PCTG. The PCTG section has a deep tint and pairs very well with the silver part on this specific unit, although all the colors the Knight AIO comes in are beautiful.

In the top left corner, we find the button. It has a nice design, kind of like a honeycomb. The travel is very short and it has a subtle click. At the bottom, you'll find the up and down wattage buttons, which also activate certain functions and lock the device. The screen is located just above these buttons. While we're here, let's talk about the device's functions and how to access them:

  • 5 Clicks to turn the device on or off.​
  • 3 Clicks to enter the vaping mode selection. Using the up and down buttons, you can choose between VW, VV, DVW, BF, NI, TI, SS, or TCR (we'll discuss DVW mode in more detail in the screen section; the others are classic modes like VW or VV, and the rest are temperature control modes).​
  • Holding the up and down buttons at the same time will fully lock the device.​
  • Holding the up and down buttons along with the fire button will reset the puff counter.​
I have to say, the design of this Knight AIO is truly beautiful. I love the combination of materials and the build quality.

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Here's a look at the screen. It's small, but it's more than enough for what we need. The screen displays:
  • Battery percentage using 5 slots.​
  • Wattage indicator (which becomes the puff duration indicator when you press the fire button).​
  • Mode indicator, in this case, VW.​
  • Lock indicator (a padlock icon).​
  • Ω indicator.​
  • Puff counter with 4 slots.​
Now, as promised, I'll briefly talk about the DVW (Dynamic Wattage) mode. I found it to be the most interesting, even though it's on many other devices. In this mode, you get 5 slots. For each slot, you can adjust the wattage and the duration before it moves to the next slot. This way, you could start at 30W and gradually increase it to 45W (for example), adjusting the duration to your liking.

I think it's a pretty neat mode, and I've been using it quite a bit while testing the device.


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This is the battery compartment. It's protected by an aluminum alloy casing and connects to the PCTG body with two strong magnets. Even so, there's a bit of rattling if you try to move it—a slight wiggle that, while not annoying, I felt was necessary to mention. Once the casing is removed, you should insert your battery with the negative pole facing up and the positive pole down, then tighten the screw until the device detects it.

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On the other side, there's a small window made of aluminum alloy. This window lets you see the remaining e-liquid in the tank, though I should mention that the deep tint of the PCTG body can sometimes make it hard to see. The window is held in place by four small magnets in the corners. To fill the tank, just remove this window, open the silicone flap, and you're ready to fill and keep vaping.

From the front, you'll also notice another small window with two inserts that also let you check the device's e-liquid level. At the bottom of this section, there's a small ant, a nod to the Smoant name. You can also fill the e-liquid by removing this window and following the same process as before.

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The Boro tank is secured by a thread on the drip tip. The good news is you can easily tighten it by getting a good grip on the drip tip, so no additional tools are needed. A plus is that the packaging includes two drip tips: one better suited for DL (direct-to-lung) and a more restricted one for RDL (restricted direct-to-lung). The drip tip also has a bit of rattling, but it's not noticeable when you're using it—only if you move it with your hand. To remove it, you just pull it straight up.

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The airflow is adjusted from the bottom of the tank. By turning that wheel, you can close or open the air inlet for a more or less restricted vape. To insert a coil, just pull off the bottom part of the tank, insert your coil (I recommend lightly priming it beforehand), and reassemble it.

The tank has a capacity of 5mL, which is good for a solid vaping session, though with the 0.2Ω coil, you might find yourself needing to refill pretty quickly. The refilling process is really simple and easy to do, and it's generally mess-free. Plus, after nearly 600 puffs with a single coil, I've noticed there's practically no condensation or any sign of liquid residue.

Vaping Time
Now, let's move on to the testing, starting with the 0.4Ω coil. The flavor at first really surprised me; it was very powerful, and the vapor production was great. After about 500 puffs, the flavor began to fade gradually, becoming less and less noticeable, which was something I didn't entirely expect. This coil was tested with the airflow a quarter-closed and at 40W, using the DL drip tip.

For the 0.2Ω coil, the power is noticeably superior. The flavor hit increases a lot thanks to the wattage, and the vapor production is simply massive—it's a coil made for going all out. However, the same thing happens: after a certain number of puffs, the flavor fading is very noticeable.

Regarding battery management, I have to say I was pleasantly surprised. I usually use two full charges and part of a third in a day with most mods, but with this one, the second charge is enough to get me through (though it does get pretty close to running out).

In hand, the Knight AIO is very comfortable. It's big, but not excessively so. The button position is good for someone who uses the device with their right hand. Since I generally use it with my left, I tend to cover the air intake, though for me, this isn't a disadvantage at all.


Conclusion
Beyond that, there's not much more I can say about this vape. It's quite customizable, accepts other Boro tanks, has a wide variety of vaping modes, features good build materials, and excellent battery management. The only downsides I can point out are the drastic flavor fade of the coils and the slight rattling in the drip tip, battery cover, and the long front window.


Hi all,

Wow, thanks for sharing all that you’ve clearly been through the whole range of gear.
I didn’t realize disposables were 100% PG and that salts could vary so much, that’s really useful info.
Sounds like rebuildables have worked best for you long-term. Out of curiosity, is there a particular RBA or RTA setup you’d recommend for someone wanting to cut costs like you mentioned?
Rta or RDA and diy. Rebuildables (no cartridge or pod) use entirely commodity material so they’re much much cheaper.
You do have to get your fingers messy every few days though.
Your continuing costs are cotton balls (1 bag is good for multiple years) 316L stainless wire ( again multiple years), Pg and VG (~$30/gal.)liquid nic (which is actually the most expensive bit) at -$50/ half liter, and flavoring, call it $6/oz it can go higher or lower depending on what you get

For lowest starter hardware cost you could get 3capo squonker kits from wetvapes on clearance for $5a piece. The capo comes with one battery but it’s crap. Goes down to like 1600mah quickly. You can use the mod as a charger and charge two while you are vaping one. Another way to do it is get one mod kit, and 2 more 20700/21700 batteries and a 4bay charger from somewhere else. Pricier, but you minimize the crap battery. That’s ftm though and as low as you can go.

I got a couple much more standard mods from them for more money, and some RTAs. Still on clearance so below standard prices but they had regular mods there. I don’t know why exactly the capos are $5/piece. They’re more commonly 8 times that. I bought 4. Also don’t bother with the maze, I bought ALL their coils. Well I guess it’s not that bad. 50¢ for an atty with2 coils. GL finding more though. The maze is not a rebuildable.

More normally a rta rig is $~30+ for the atty, ~40+ for the mod, batteries are ~6+ each and a charger is ~15+. These are the numbers I did the math with. The wetvapes clearance section is an anomaly.

INNOKIN COOLFIRE P60 KIT REVIEWED BY BIGBOB2322

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I like the fact that Innokin ships the device wrapped in a stickem plastic wrap for protection, a short quick intro on the menu is printed on the sticker as well.


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Looking the device over the leather look that's on the sides and spine look good, I think think it's a sticker but the outer stitching really bring the look together. Having the charge port on the bottom of the device makes you lay it down during charging. Innokin thought to put a rubber surround around the charge port to protect your furniture from scratches, this does make the device easy to tip over though. All corners are rounded for a very comfortable hand feel.



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The pod connects to the device with 4 very strong magnets and because the airflow control is on the pod itself the pod can only be connected one way. The Ohm's of the coil inside the pod as well as the wattage range for that coil are printed on the lower portion of the pod.


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