These tests below only note my personal opinion for the ESTIMATED ratings for the batteries I tested at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not genuine and in the original plastic wrap from a known and trusted manufacturer can change at any time! This can be one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” batteries or ones from smaller manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.

Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of property damage, personal injury, or even death. Never use them outside of a fully protected battery pack and you use them at your own risk. Never exceed the battery’s true continuous discharge rating (CDR), never let it get colder than 0°C or hotter than 60°C to help lower the risks and extend cell life, and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition. Never use a battery that is physically damaged in any way.

Testing batteries at their limits is dangerous and should never be attempted by anyone who has not thoroughly studied the dangers involved, understands the risks, has the proper equipment, and takes all appropriate safety precautions.

If the battery has only one current rating, or if it only says "max", then I have to assume the battery is rated at that current level for any type of discharge, including continuous.




Test Results
This is of the top performing 18650 power cells we can buy.

• These are probably full production cells since they have CCC*** certification.
• The JP30P1 runs cool for its 36A true continuous current rating, which is great for cycle life.
• Its 56A temp-limited (to 80°C) rating seems reasonable.
• The datasheet lists a 140A pulse rating (5sec max). While this cell (and several others) can be run at this extreme power level it will shorten the life of the cell.
• There was no noticeable performance difference between these and the earlier LT 19660A rewraps of this cell.
• The JP30P1 performs essentially the same as the EVE 30PL with the Molicel P30B a touch under those two. I recommend testing all three in your particular application if every last bit of performance is critical, especially if in lower temps since the P30B does well there.
• The two cells I tested delivered 3015mAh and 3040mAh. This isn’t terrible consistency but I’d prefer to see a smaller difference. It’s a little above their 3000mAh typical rating so I am rating them at 3000mAh.
• Standard charge rate is 1.5A with a max of 14.5A. I recommend staying at 2A or lower for long cell life. Charging at high current levels, especially up towards 14.5A, will shorten cell life.
• Datasheet max weight = 50.0g. The two cells I had averaged 48.25g.
• Datasheet max size = 18.56mm dia x 65.23mm long. The two cells I had averaged 18.18mm x 64.95mm.
• The cells I tested appear to have been made on Sept 1, 2025.
• WARNING: I recommend welding to the bottom of these cells only near the center of the cell. Avoid the three arc lines near the outer rim as those are the weld lines for the internal connection of the bottom of the “jellyroll” to the metal can.

Thank you DIY500AMP.com for donating the cells for testing!

***China Compulsory Certification, additional testing now required for all cells made or sold in China after August 1, 2024. The logo and certain information must be put on all cells once they are certified. This typically won’t be done by a manufacturer until the cell is ready to go into full production.


Continuous Current Discharge Graphs



Ratings and Performance Specs Graphic



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Hello Vapers.

I just started vaping again after years dedication to analogs.

Anyone know what else is Similar or even better if possible to Creamy Tabacco 20mg pod with a Vuse Pro pen?

I might buy try the bigger vuse ultra device , but I like prefer the pens that I can hold in my mouth , dangle in mouth effortlessly. Especially useful while on keyboard.

Also read that using Vuse ULTRA pods with a vuse Reload, McClaren or a Vuse Ultra Device made the taste of the Ultra Pods perhaps a little more tabaco and less vanilla.

Nevertheless with so many settings and adaptability present in the VUSE Ultra Device. I’m sure I can get it to the perfect flavour and strength and perhaps even better than I currently experience on the Pen, but Id be really upset if the Ultra Device ends up spoiling the flavour and taste of the ULTRA Pod I experience and get, as used on the Pen. And in my experience with things, is that it might do. Plus the dangling from mouth thing would be gone. But I will still give that a try. 100% I will.

Reason why I like Vuse Creamy Tabacco Ultra pods is 50% the Ultra Pod itself, and 50% the fact I use the Utra pod in a Pen , Flavour and Feel is closest to divine I have experienced. I Tried other types of Creamy Tabacco 20mg (Classic, Intense) with the Pen, but they were more tobacco than vanilla. With the Ultra version of Creamy Tabacco 20mg and the Basic Pen. Its perfect for me. Or as close to as I can experience.

I'm just asking for any suggestions from experienced vapers for on What Device (any other brand) , and what ELiquid or Cartridge , is Closest to the feel taste and sensation of a/the 20mg Vuse Creamy Tabacco Ultra Pod + The simple VUSE pen?

Since you cant "Mod" a vuse pen, or open its pod to mix in more liquid or strength, I’m hoping there is another device & pod combo out there matching or beating it? is there? For my flavour feel preference.

A little background:

Don’t forget you’d be advising and talking to a committed smoker whose been on the same brand of normal cigs for 15+ Years, (JPS Real Red Superkings) and Ii can’t smoke any other brand (they are simply yuks to me. Including cigars) And I can’t even smoke jps real red. Has to be Superkings.

I was intrigued and impressed with Vuse Other flavours i have tried , including the fruity flavours, but they wouldn’t be my normal vape. Creamy Tabacco on the other hand .......... !! Well! That can, could and would!! But asking experienced vapers to get that 1 notch up of hit !! (from Vuse Ultra without destroying the flavour).

New here. Years of vaping. Someone told me to check it out.