Can't disagree with you…4mm is nice. But there's always a compromise. There's no one catch all for all the vapes we like. There's what works and what doesn't.
Good luck and enjoy the ride.
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Can't disagree with you…4mm is nice. But there's always a compromise. There's no one catch all for all the vapes we like. There's what works and what doesn't.
Good luck and enjoy the ride.
Agree on the advantages of betters amps. A nice compromise is the 18490/500 for compact. And I have a bunch of the Zen/Steam-Monkey variants which I dial in at 80% of the amp limit for AW's. Mostly tabs and cooler vapes. But I disagree with you on the coiler for reasons I've posted about from time to time on using strain to optimize Kanthal and build coherent survivable rigidity into coils. Bending doesn't result in such consistent forms and just ignores Kanthal's deliberate material advantages, i.e. what it's designed for. And as Dampmaskin's Steam-Engine points out small variations in length (lateral or longitudinal spread) multiplied by #turns can add up in resistance and [I say] vary with each wind. So why not just simply wind a vape the same way always? Not just sorta like the last vape. Just the vape we like.
Yielding the soapbox
Good luck.
No problem - I am not going to debate any advantage in tension vs non. This thread is for a new mech user.
Personally I don't subscribe to any of that theory if only because I can't believe that in a vaping application that tension would make any NOTICEABLE difference in the vape. Again - maybe it does in a critical electronic circuit where micro-ohms may make a difference, but I would bet my entire net worth that in a blind test that the average vaper could not tell the difference.
And I don't see the need to muddy the waters and risk overwhelming a new mech user - so...I stand by my original comment:
Get a simple coiling jig that will consistently and simply make decent single-wire coils out of 24 or 26 gauge Kanthal.
With a new mech user, the focus of my advice is more on ease and safety rather than complex theories and details that may merely add to their confusion, fears, and apprehension.
And now I'm off my soap box
Neg, sorry. I meant IPV 3Ds. It's a quite compact variable. But yeah it is a box, of sorts. My bad.
Good luck.
No worries. I'm the biggest skeptic you're ever likely to meet. I began my study of strain as an adaptation and it took me a good year of building over a thousand of them to relinquish my incredulity.
No, I base my conclusion and conviction on the anecdotal reports of the impact of proper symmetry and oxidation from many hundreds of accomplished users around the world who've replicated the functional design capabilities of Kanthal and alumina in a heating element. I'd hasten to add, this is no theory. But I was stubborn like that. It just takes some of us longer.
Good luck.
Not trying to coax you along the box route, this is simply for size comparisons.
On the left is a 3D printed, ABS squonker with a low profile, ultem-capped RDA. On the right is a full copper mech in 18350 mode with an RDA of "standard" height.
The tube is thinner, but taller, and much, much heavier, uncomfortably so. It also vapes like crap without making serious, deliberate concessions to the build you throw in it.
The box (and atty) fits into a pack of smokes and doesn't weigh an awful lot more. I make no concessions on this device, vaping precisely as I like, all day, and it's got space for a squonk bottle or a chip or just a mosfet... box designs are accommodating. More specifically, side-by-side designs are accommodating.
Again, my intent here isn't to steer you toward box mods, but to give you a quick look at some of the benefits of different materials, case "geometry", for lack of a better word, lower profile atomizers, and simply moving the 510 out from directly above the battery. Tube mechs are wonderful, but they have serious limitations when you start asking for creature comforts.
On the left is a 3D printed, ABS squonker with a low profile, ultem-capped RDA. On the right is a full copper mech in 18350 mode with an RDA of "standard" height.
The tube is thinner, but taller, and much, much heavier, uncomfortably so. It also vapes like crap without making serious, deliberate concessions to the build you throw in it.
The box (and atty) fits into a pack of smokes and doesn't weigh an awful lot more. I make no concessions on this device, vaping precisely as I like, all day, and it's got space for a squonk bottle or a chip or just a mosfet... box designs are accommodating. More specifically, side-by-side designs are accommodating.
Again, my intent here isn't to steer you toward box mods, but to give you a quick look at some of the benefits of different materials, case "geometry", for lack of a better word, lower profile atomizers, and simply moving the 510 out from directly above the battery. Tube mechs are wonderful, but they have serious limitations when you start asking for creature comforts.
I've been offered a sum for selling this mech
actually more then the parts I paid for it
I wanted to post some comic/irony before now.. ..but eventually will skip the process and post the pictures in the -very remote- case I decide to adjust for smaller and to let it go
so this is the thing ( no adv. )
the mech works well
it's heavy : which feels very good in the hand of my buddy
it's machined well , the 510 thread is perfect and the seal is firm
fire button bit long , at least for my ultimate satisfaction
last but not least , I wanted magnets and here the button is spring loaded ; not a valuable issue among others though
wanted to post a video but it's not an option here if I'm not wrong ..
I will upload more porn later
actually more then the parts I paid for it
I wanted to post some comic/irony before now.. ..but eventually will skip the process and post the pictures in the -very remote- case I decide to adjust for smaller and to let it go
so this is the thing ( no adv. )
the mech works well
it's heavy : which feels very good in the hand of my buddy
it's machined well , the 510 thread is perfect and the seal is firm
fire button bit long , at least for my ultimate satisfaction
last but not least , I wanted magnets and here the button is spring loaded ; not a valuable issue among others though
wanted to post a video but it's not an option here if I'm not wrong ..
I will upload more porn later
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Definitely a gorgeous looking device! Many simple spring loaded buttons can be modified to accept magnets instead, FYI. Not all, but many.
I like the weight of a mech in my hand too, by the way. Just don't like it in transit.
Wonder the cost to make it custom ..
custom to what you see , same material and shape but a bottom cut into a 18350 -or 18500- minimum-allowed size battery container.
just a curiosity
custom to what you see , same material and shape but a bottom cut into a 18350 -or 18500- minimum-allowed size battery container.
just a curiosity
Depends on what you're willing to do. Aside from a dedicated 18350 tube, you could cut a section out of the middle of an 18650 tube and then fuse the pieces together? Seems like an awful lot of effort for what will very likely disappoint you in the end.
Just my 2¢ again. I've never found any compelling reason to use 18350 tubes. Almost zero benefit paired with massive compromises. Yuck.
I guess they will build shorter usb rechargeable battery mods
maybe some day ( may be not?)
I have ordered an ijust 3000 mah battery mod in the meanwhile
I have another beautiful rda to couple
so this was due ,more then one reason
maybe some day ( may be not?)
I have ordered an ijust 3000 mah battery mod in the meanwhile
I have another beautiful rda to couple
so this was due ,more then one reason
Yeah, believe me, I'm a massive proponent of beauty offering more than simple looks. And it's funny, I was literally about to suggest looking at that mod. Never seen one in person, but it looks like a decent alternative. There's also the Reuleaux RX Mini, which I do use, but it's not a tubular design. Tiny and weighty though.
I do not like it very much to tell the truth .. feels plastic and not classy at all
I really dislike plastics /and paints , for vaping gears
and not only btw
but did not find any better alternative and need some convenience, at the moment
I forgot to tell , i sold a smok v8 (for the look and feel)
you read I cant' stand vaping from boxes? ( I cant descrive how I feel about it lol )
you may get me now I'm not .... but quite demanding about things that i own and pertain to me
among other things, I consider vaping also intimate
I really dislike plastics /and paints , for vaping gears
and not only btw
but did not find any better alternative and need some convenience, at the moment
I forgot to tell , i sold a smok v8 (for the look and feel)
you read I cant' stand vaping from boxes? ( I cant descrive how I feel about it lol )
you may get me now I'm not .... but quite demanding about things that i own and pertain to me
among other things, I consider vaping also intimate
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Yep, compromises have to happen somewhere. I'm of the mind that I'm willing to compromise anything but the quality of my vape. Your choice, but seriously my best recommendation is to get over your need for a cylinder.
In my hand is the Reuleaux RX Mini. It's weighty, metal and has a beautiful hand-fitting shape. Teeny-weeny, decent mAh, 80W max. My compromise here? Only that it's regulated and has an internal lipo.
it definitely looks , a thing that could
disclaimerDD
I do not need cylinders .. I would vape even from an e-pipe..an hammer alike.. or an rda + thank attached to : nothing. Possibly not a dripping one.
They just still have not buit the thing , sure they have not built the thing wihtout compromises.
They will - I am sure or so , it needs some time still..I guess we get there sooner then later
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DDI do not need cylinders .. I would vape even from an e-pipe..an hammer alike.. or an rda + thank attached to : nothing. Possibly not a dripping one.
They just still have not buit the thing , sure they have not built the thing wihtout compromises.
They will - I am sure or so , it needs some time still..I guess we get there sooner then later
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Agree, but I still love the mech's. Like bood I'm torn 'tween the need for a compact little slider and the battle deck mods. Never sprung for 3 batts but the Rx compact is nice I'll agree even as way too big to stash in jeans. And although I'm fond of outdoor gear particularly for all the pockets don't wear it all the time or carry a handbag, backpack, etc. much these days. The trials and tribulations of a vaper.
Good luck.
the only thing that I found to carry it adequately around is a big pen pouch with a hook for a belt . Not exactly my thing ,..I will search for something better . It would need to stay vertical too , always . Being this my only device I want the ultimate possible feel and ease for it
little update
probably not a work of art , but nevertheless working..
while I've been rollin these coils - and used both spaced and not , I've decided to order the famous 'alien' wired (micro)coil ..to see and taste myself if there is a difference, and if there, how big it is. From what i read , I expect some difference.
probably not a work of art , but nevertheless working..
while I've been rollin these coils - and used both spaced and not , I've decided to order the famous 'alien' wired (micro)coil ..to see and taste myself if there is a difference, and if there, how big it is. From what i read , I expect some difference.
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