Is vaping really safer???

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  1. shannon

    shannon New Member

    Apr 13, 2009
    Mid Michigan
    Just wondering what you all thought. I mean everyone thought smoking was fine back when. I'm just concerned about breathing something in that can cause sores on your mouth and stuff. Has anyone been vaping for awhile and seen their doctor or had chest xrays or anything? I really want to try this!! But have some reservations!!
  2. Skad

    Skad Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 29, 2009
    Biloxi, MS
    No one can fully assure you it's perfectly safe. There have been studies linked to in other threads, which proclaim the safety, and perhaps even therapeutic benefit of inhaling PG vapor.

    That being said, after two weeks of vaping and no cigs, I feel much better.

    And I'm certain that I've done much worse things to my body then suck on an ecig.
  3. alex1407

    alex1407 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2009
    Brooklyn , New York
    No one knows for sure,as there wasn't long term studies,but i rather take my chances with vaping than smoking.
  4. D_Struct

    D_Struct Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 9, 2009
    Lufkin, TX
    After two months of not smoking, I can say that I feel great. I sleep better. My breathing has improved. Sinus issues are down to a minimum. I can work out without nearly passing out.

    This is a huge change from when I was smoking a pack a day.

    While the verdict is still out on any possible long-term issues, I would rather take my chances, as well.
  5. Klimpt

    Klimpt Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 11, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    The infuriating thing for me is I am almost certain that the technology and general idea behind it make sense. It should be possible to build a machine that turns a non-toxic substance into a vapour that can deliver a hit to the throat/lungs like smoke but that is composed of non-harmful substances. That must be possible and can't be that hard! We can put a man on the moon, for chrissakes we must be able to create water vapour!

    My fear is not so much about the theory, it is that the actual units themselves (or the carts/liquids) contaminate the vapour, for example through liquid reacting with the plastic containers, or the atomiser metal degrading into the vapour. Stuff like that is really scary to me. A well-built, non-leaky vapouriser would, I believe, have a really good chance of being totally safe but I'm not 100% sure that's what we are using.
  6. taz3cat

    taz3cat Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 2, 2008
    Port Arthur, Texas
    Shannon, even if the FDA appproved the e-liquid that would not mean it was perfectly safe. Just look at the law suits from FDA approved drugs.

    Your always going to have a few people that have adverse reations to any thing. LOL, some people cannot eat peanut butter, strawberrys and I cannot eat whole wheat bread. I am not going to tell you not to eat whole wheat bread just because I have a problem.

    I have been vaping since June 2008 and I figure vaping less than 20 chemical has got to be better than 4000 chemical and 40 or so are know to cause cancer.

    I have look up all the ingidians in the e-liquid I use and none at this time are know to cause cancer.

    They have known since the 1940's that PG was an anti bacterial and anti viral substance.

    I did have a x-ray done today and on the 21st my doctor will probaly tell me there is no problem. If there is one from Vaping he will know it, because he has know since June that I vape.
  7. yvilla

    yvilla Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 18, 2008
    Rochester, NY
    Scary as compared to smoking known carcinogens and toxins? :confused:
  8. QueenInNC

    QueenInNC Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 21, 2009
    Charlotte, NC USA
    I agree with this. I will take vaping over 4000 chemicals any day.
  9. MonkeyMonk

    MonkeyMonk Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2009
  10. surbitonPete

    surbitonPete Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 25, 2009
    North Yorkshire UK
    To carry on smoking tobacco like saying I would sooner do something I 'know' will kill me because I am much too scared of doing something that might 'not' kill me.
  11. breakfastchef

    breakfastchef Moved On

    Feb 12, 2009
    Long term effects of vaping or second-hand vaping are unknown. We are all lab rats. I can say that I am comfortable with my decision to vape than to have continued smoking analogs.
  12. RedBullHighBride

    RedBullHighBride Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2009
    I heartily agree with Skad. I feel a lot better too, I smell better and I even look a little bit less 'meh'.
  13. Kate

    Kate Moved On

    Jun 26, 2008
    The question at the top of the thread is 'is vaping really safer'.

    Most of us think probably it's safer than smoking, nobody knows for sure and anyone who says they do know is ignoring valid questions about potential risks.
  14. Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah

    Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 9, 2009
    West Allis, WI

    That was so well said, Kate, it needs to be said again....

    Nothing in this life is totally, 100% safe. Nobody can make your decisions for you on which risks are acceptable and which are not.
  15. Toni

    Toni Full Member

    Apr 2, 2009
    Honestly, I have no idea. I too am willing to take my chances. I vaped for about 4 days & was down to 0 cigarettes a day, & then had issues with my atomizer, (have back up people, lol) So I had to go back to the cancer sticks. Every since then I can't get a deep breath, I'm coughing all the time, I feel like there's something stuck in my throat & I am sooo tired. As soon as I get my order in I am SO going back to vaping only. I feel like crap all the time now. Just my 2 cents. :D
  16. Ultimist

    Ultimist Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 10, 2009
    Montana, USA
    Though we don't know for sure if vaping is safer than smoking analogs, we DO know that when vaping we aren't inhaling those 4000 odd ingredients, including over 40 known carcinogens.

    I know it's not scientific, but common sense says that inhaling 4 or 5 ingredients (which have not been ignited) could not possibly be any worse than inhaling over 4000 ingredients (which HAVE been ignited).

    Scientific or not, I think it is safe to say that vaping is (at least) a bit safer than smoking analogs. That's just my opinion.
  17. Elendil

    Elendil Assclown Exterminator Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Mar 28, 2009
    IL USA
    Very true.

    I choose to think of it as safer, so it is...........for me.
  18. Duckies

    Duckies Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 20, 2009
    Safe? No. Nicotine isn't "safe". It has negative effects on the heart and cardio-vascular system and PG puts lactic acid into the muscular system.

    That said, PG is the main ingredient in asthema inhalers as it is what allows inhalers to work.

    Lighting tobacco and inhaling it into your lungs brings with it 4,000 chemicals, ~60 of which are carcinogens (cancer causing substances).

    This isn't about "safe", it is about harm reduction (why the FDA will NEVER declare something as addictive as nicotine "safe").

    I will leave you with my doc's reaction when I demo'd my PV for him after telling him I quit after 25 years. "I am not as concerned about the nicotine -- you aren't inhaling smoke. Keep it up."

    Talk with your doctor about PVs -- but know that they may not be aware of them. Be prepared to provide them with information about smoking vs vaping and give them time to research before giving you an all clear on moving forward.
  19. HappyGirl

    HappyGirl Full Member

    Apr 13, 2009
    That is by far the most intelligent post i have ever read!
    thank you!!!!!!
  20. ozrick

    ozrick Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 16, 2009
    Chicago, IL

    Ahhh there's my Kate!

    Anyway, Duckies hit it right on the head. I don't believe that vaping comes without potential risks, we are dealing with a poison in it's raw form. I have been trying to educate my friends and strangers who ask me about vaping with the positives and negatives.
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