1,000+ Comments on DOT E-Cig Ban Needed by November 14
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They won't be happy until they take away every little joy, will they? Why don't they ban seat kickers and smelly people, things that actually ARE offensive on a plane?
They won't be happy until they take away every little joy, will they? Why don't they ban seat kickers and smelly people, things that actually ARE offensive on a plane?
Done! Thanks for the heads up...
I watched this great video on Youtube the other day from Lawrence Deyton, M.D., the Director of the FDA Center for tobacco Products ( FDA Basics: Lawrence Deyton -- Director Center for Tobacco Products - YouTube ) where he explains the FDA position on it all as: "The War Against tobacco" . . .
One thing I really respect about these folks is their insatiable desire to 'go to war' - They don't need evidence, they don't need research, they don't even need complaints...
I for one, feel safe in the knowledge that my tax dollars are hard at work limiting and reducing my rights while making sure the world is safe from Portable Vaporizers...
I watched this great video on Youtube the other day from Lawrence Deyton, M.D., the Director of the FDA Center for tobacco Products ( FDA Basics: Lawrence Deyton -- Director Center for Tobacco Products - YouTube ) where he explains the FDA position on it all as: "The War Against tobacco" . . .
One thing I really respect about these folks is their insatiable desire to 'go to war' - They don't need evidence, they don't need research, they don't even need complaints...
I for one, feel safe in the knowledge that my tax dollars are hard at work limiting and reducing my rights while making sure the world is safe from Portable Vaporizers...
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They won't be happy until they take away every little joy, will they? Why don't they ban seat kickers and smelly people, things that actually ARE offensive on a plane?
By far the most offensive thing on planes these days is the food they serve.
LOL No doubt. Honestly the food is probably more hazardous to the passengers' health than PVs.
Are nicotine inhalers like the Nicotrol Inhaler currently accepted for use during flight?
In the proposal, they assume the law is on their side because e-cigs are tobacco products. A Nicotrol Inhaler is not a tobacco product but a medical device, ( and regulated and ruled on as such I would assume by the airlines) however they do the same thing, and contain the same ingredients (more or less). You are still exhaling a vapor with a Nicotrol Inhaler.
Could the case be made that if you can use one you should be able to use the other?
If Nicotrol Inhalers are currently allowed what is the reasoning why this is acceptable?
If they do not allow the use of Nicotrol Inhalers currently, this could also help change the rulings on their use in flight.
About the above spoken of Akston Hughes device; I find it interesting you cannot access their website without a username and password and I cannot seem to find a registration form to join the website. I find this strange. I Googled the name. www.AkstonHighes.com redirects you here: http://www.akstonhughes.com/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http://akstonhughes.com/
Hard to know if this is a reputable reliable company. I find it highly suspicious that the "CEO Akston Hughes International " uses a Word Press Blog services for it's website. If they did indeed come out with such a device do you think the airlines would make an exception for it's use?
In the proposal, they assume the law is on their side because e-cigs are tobacco products. A Nicotrol Inhaler is not a tobacco product but a medical device, ( and regulated and ruled on as such I would assume by the airlines) however they do the same thing, and contain the same ingredients (more or less). You are still exhaling a vapor with a Nicotrol Inhaler.
Could the case be made that if you can use one you should be able to use the other?
If Nicotrol Inhalers are currently allowed what is the reasoning why this is acceptable?
If they do not allow the use of Nicotrol Inhalers currently, this could also help change the rulings on their use in flight.
About the above spoken of Akston Hughes device; I find it interesting you cannot access their website without a username and password and I cannot seem to find a registration form to join the website. I find this strange. I Googled the name. www.AkstonHighes.com redirects you here: http://www.akstonhughes.com/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http://akstonhughes.com/
Hard to know if this is a reputable reliable company. I find it highly suspicious that the "CEO Akston Hughes International " uses a Word Press Blog services for it's website. If they did indeed come out with such a device do you think the airlines would make an exception for it's use?
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FDA-approved products are exempted from the ban.
Their reasoning is that one is FDA-approved, and the other isn't. It's not very complex, and it's best you just don't bring it up.
Up to 391 comments from yesterday, and I'm sure there are others still being added.
Thank you for the info..
I asked before signing because I'm formulating my comment -
But, Hell man I want to bring that up ! It's a great point to help fight this thing. If we could show that No matter if they are produced under different laws, one medical and one tobacco, that they do the same thing, have the same ingredients and both blow out the same vapor, then it is clear that their proposal is not fair in the least.
[ Do they have these same studies For the Nicotrol Inhaler ( or other FDA approved products like it that are exempt under this ruling) that they claim they do not have for e-cigs?
If so, we could find those studies and use them against this ruling - because the ingredients are the same and the exhaled vapor is the same. ]
Why not bring that up? It's a great point! - If the data is on our side, we need to make the best possible use of it I would think. Please explain your reasoning for this in more detail.
Done! [Comment Tracking Number: 80f5c2f1] Here's what I wrote:
BTW, I had no problem entering my comment directly using Firefox.
I beg you not to pass this proposed rule (Smoking of Electronic Cigarettes on Aircraft)!
I smoked tobacco cigarettes for over 40 years, quitting twice for about a year each time ... but resumed smoking because I missed it so much. I quit forever two and a half years ago, on the first day of my use of personal vaporizers (the more accurate name for "electronic cigarettes"). I'll never smoke again, because "vaping" e-cigs is much healthier and more pleasurable.
I am still addicted to nicotine and the hand-to-mouth, inhaling experience ... but now I don't ingest the tar and all the other harmful chemicals in tobacco smoke. There is no tobacco or any form of smoke in e-cigarettes. Also nothing is burned (so no fire hazard).
What looks like smoke is merely the vapor of atomized flavored USP-grade propylene glycol (used, for example, in asthma inhalers and foods) and/or USP-grade vegetative glycerin (used, for example, in foods, beverages, and pharmaceuticals). Since I am not exhaling smoke, there is, of course, no second-hand smoke.
Please do not deny me (and hundreds of thousands of others) this simple pleasure while flying. And certainly do not impose the proposed, excessive fines of $2,300 and $3,200, if I give into my cravings (hurting no one) while in an aircraft.
Thank you for your consideration!
Don Grimme, a former smoker and now a committed vaper
Yeah, I just blew DaBoomVape's secret identity, but what the heck!I smoked tobacco cigarettes for over 40 years, quitting twice for about a year each time ... but resumed smoking because I missed it so much. I quit forever two and a half years ago, on the first day of my use of personal vaporizers (the more accurate name for "electronic cigarettes"). I'll never smoke again, because "vaping" e-cigs is much healthier and more pleasurable.
I am still addicted to nicotine and the hand-to-mouth, inhaling experience ... but now I don't ingest the tar and all the other harmful chemicals in tobacco smoke. There is no tobacco or any form of smoke in e-cigarettes. Also nothing is burned (so no fire hazard).
What looks like smoke is merely the vapor of atomized flavored USP-grade propylene glycol (used, for example, in asthma inhalers and foods) and/or USP-grade vegetative glycerin (used, for example, in foods, beverages, and pharmaceuticals). Since I am not exhaling smoke, there is, of course, no second-hand smoke.
Please do not deny me (and hundreds of thousands of others) this simple pleasure while flying. And certainly do not impose the proposed, excessive fines of $2,300 and $3,200, if I give into my cravings (hurting no one) while in an aircraft.
Thank you for your consideration!
Don Grimme, a former smoker and now a committed vaper
BTW, I had no problem entering my comment directly using Firefox.
I'm 99% sure that as a part of the approval process, a chemical analysis was performed on the exhalation from those using Nicotrol inhalers.
A good point related to that may be that despite being on the market for half-a-decade and tested multiple times by the FDA and public health researchers, no study has ever demonstrated that the exhaled vapors from an e-cigarette are any more dangerous than the vapors from a Nicotrol inhaler.
I just sent my statement in. We must fight these bans every chance we get or we will be completely regulated just like smoking is.
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