1,000+ Comments on DOT E-Cig Ban Needed by November 14

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Please ask your favorite vendor to advertise the need to oppose this regulation with a simple public comment. Safe Cig and blu cigs both made posts to their Facebook wall about it, and now we're at 564 comments.

 

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Up to 546. The website had been down for much of the weekend, but it's back up, so please submit some comments.

 

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Nighttime bump. Only 7 days left!

 

[94_FLSTN]

Just saw this thread for the first time tonight and posted my comment with the DOT.

How do you track the total number of comments to the DOT site? I couldn't find a stat anywhere on the page.

Edited for: Never mind ... I found the stats page for comments (546 so far)

Here's the link if anyone's interested.

 

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Thanks Lone Wolf.

 

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It's going to take a real push to get there!!!

wonder why it's going so slowly.

 

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Come on ECF. 7 days left and only 556 comments. We should be able to hit 700!

 

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And a morning bump too.

 

[stormlover]

Comment made. I was especially intrigued by this verbiage:

This NPRM proposes to amend part 252 to define smoking as the smoking of tobacco products or use of electronic cigarettes that are designed to deliver nicotine or other substances to a user in the form of a vapor.

Hence, my comments were centered around the fact that if PV's are banned, so must asthma rescue inhalers be banned. They deliver "other substances" in the form of a vapor.

 

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Bump. Only five more days left, and we have 583 comments.

I'd really, really like to get us to at least 700.

 

[mylose64]

I'm sorry but... the $2000-3000+ fine is ridiculous.... but so is using a device that emulates smoke on a plane....

 

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I'm sorry but... the $2000-3000+ fine is ridiculous.... but so is using a device that emulates smoke on a plane....

Are you even aware that e-cigarette usage in public places is illegal in Savannah, GA?

 

[mooreted]

I'm sorry but... the $2000-3000+ fine is ridiculous.... but so is using a device that emulates smoke on a plane....

Would you care to elaborate? I'm open to opposing views. Why do you think using a non-toxic vapor on a plane might be a problem? What problems do you see with vaping on a plane?

 

[mylose64]

Are you even aware that e-cigarette usage in public places is illegal in Savannah, GA?

Yes, I am quite aware of that. Before the ban was in effect I enjoyed using my electronic cigarette with a room full of traditional smokers.

Before using an electronic cigarette, I enjoyed being a traditional smoker in a southern bar.

The ban was a bummer, especially because it also included electronic cigarettes (which doesn't make much sense... kinda). I do understand that it would be hard to distinguish who was using a cigarette and who was using a vaporizer, unless of course you got close enough to look.

Other than that, I feel like the whole e-cig ban thing was just a lack of information at the time of the law being passed.

Although I did find it disheartening, it didn't make me that upset, considering all I need to do is step out of the building, something that is barely a hassle.

 

[mylose64]

Would you care to elaborate? I'm open to opposing views. Why do you think using a non-toxic vapor on a plane might be a problem? What problems do you see with vaping on a plane?

Well, the problem I have with using electronic cigarettes is because the illusion of smoke it creates. I wouldn't want my grandmother (if I had one!) to see some huge cloud of smoke on the plane, while she is being scared just by looking out the window!

I feel like it would alarm people, especially now after you know what. While I do not agree on most of the regulations we now have in the airport, especially overpriced coffee , I believe that e-cig users can wait until the plane has landed until they blow vapor rings.

Now, with all these crazy (mostly cool) mods, these things are looking more and more like destructive devices (map tank anyone?).

I just feel that it would be better, not so much the health aspect (second hand vapor lol), but the unnecessary acts of alarming people who are unaware of these things.

While I do enjoy my joys ego passthrough attached to a home-made map tank, I can wait until I land to take a few nice clean breaths of nicotine.

 

[mooreted]

I would think people would notice there is no cigarette stink. Also, my eGo doesn't look anything like a cigarette. It would be trivial for the attendant to find out simply by asking. I'm just worried that they will put us all outside with the smokers where I have to smell their toxic fumes. It's a much bigger issue, really, than vaping on a plane. It's the whole blanket "ban everything" attitude that I find offensive. It's perfectly fine to advertise cigarettes but they want to stop us from vaping.

But that is a point that some of the prohibitionists use: "It's difficult to tell who's smoking and who's vaping." To me this is a flimsy argument since you simply have to ask, "Is that a cigarette?"

Above all that is my personal freedoms. If I am not harming others I should be free to do as I please. It's not the government's job to regulate what I put in my body. Unless my actions directly and adversely affect others it is not the government's job to regulate my behavior.

 

[mylose64]

I know there are probably many other ways to do this on a plane, but electronic cigarettes can also light paper on fire. I lit a cigarette off an atomizer once (ironic huh?)

Yeah, Yeah, I know, I'm pushing it.

 

[mylose64]

I'm just worried that they will put us all outside with the smokers where I have to smell their toxic fumes.

It's not that hard to take a few steps away from their direction.

Honestly, I do understand where you are coming from. I know that vaping started off great and now you can barely do it anywhere, but all these restrictions are very minimal. Taking the time to wait to use your electronic cigarette or moving away from the "smokers" is not a hard thing to do.

On the other hand, if a law was being passed to make electronic cigarettes illegal, that would be a totally different story.

Above all that is my personal freedoms. If I am not harming others I should be free to do as I please.

Then why can't I walk around in public naked?

Because like using e-cigs on a plane, it would probably freak some people out.

 

[mylose64]

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