2009 vapy awards

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Pete54

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Funny cause right out of the box those need charging and filling etc. and the KR808D-1 is a generic imitation. I call shenanigans and deem it a worthless award.
Just curious but exactly which e-cig doesn't need filling and charging? Also, the KR808 is not a generic imitation, it's the "model designation" of a type of cartomizer. I call shenanigans on your post.
 

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lol joe my intent was not to put the 510 as #1 but if you pull up page thats what it show. Look at the url address. I just wanted everyone to see the other listings of award winners. And joe just cuz its not a V4L carto's doesn't mean its generic. What came first Kr808 or V4L. If you don't know do your research. I do disagree that the 510 right out of the box is not the easiest. And calling the kr808 generic is a laugh since in your avatar you are using 1. Doesn't matter where the carto's come from THEY are all practically built the same. So for all the fanboys don't get mad if your supplier isn't listed as a winner. The awards where voted on by smaller community forums and youtube reviewers. V4l carto's is just a genereic carto's with V4L sticker on it. Only ones that are not the same are the prem carto's. I never had to trim the sticker on a generic carto's to get air flow But I did have to for the V4L ones. I have over 40 carto's and had to trim about 15 to 20 V4L carto's generic? Haven't trimmed any of other vendors carto's $7.50 per pack of 5. Spend $15 free shipping. rave about V4L but how much would that cost you. If I'm going to save more then $10 for 10 carto's I'll stick with what you call generic.
 
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Joe Camel

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lol joe my intent was not to put the 510 as #1 but if you pull up page thats what it show. Look at the url address. I just wanted everyone to see the other listings of award winners. And joe just cuz its not a V4L carto's doesn't mean its generic. What came first Kr808 or V4L. If you don't know do your research. I do disagree that the 510 right out of the box is not the easiest. And calling the kr808 generic is a laugh since in your avatar you are using 1. Doesn't matter where the carto's come from THEY are all practically built the same. So for all the fanboys don't get mad if your supplier isn't listed as a winner. The awards where voted on by smaller community forums and youtube reviewers. V4l carto's is just a genereic carto's with V4L sticker on it. Only ones that are not the same are the prem carto's. I never had to trim the sticker on a generic carto's to get air flow But I did have to for the V4L ones. I have over 40 carto's and had to trim about 15 to 20 V4L carto's generic? Haven't trimmed any of other vendors carto's $7.50 per pack of 5. Spend $15 free shipping. rave about V4L but how much would that cost you. If I'm going to save more then $10 for 10 carto's I'll stick with what you call generic.
Even after your edit sadly you still don't understand what generic means.
 

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joe calm down. And for 1 there is a better carto's so some people say called greencig carto's. I am just laughing at how you used generic when everyone knows V4L carto's are constructed from the same company and the no name brand 1s. And that award was for the System atomizer/carto NOT A COMPANY thus wasn't labeled.
 

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LeT me see if I get this right(if not ok sorry im just trying to help clarify) I think if im not mistaken the kr808d-1 is a chinese version of the original 901..But on another note the reason v4l is of high regard here anyways is more about the service and customer support because steve "smilin" milin has acually sent a man(leaford) to china to personally oversee the production of the units(kr808d-1) and carto's that are sold by V4L to make sure there are no corners cut and that the manufacturers no that we want quality built products. So although its not an exclusive product to V4L its more about process engineer and quality control making sure that the manufacturer always has there best foot forward with the product that gets shipped to us.
 

Joe Camel

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joe calm down. And for 1 there is a better carto's so some people say called greencig carto's. I am just laughing at how you used generic when everyone knows V4L carto's are constructed from the same company and the no name brand 1s. And that award was for the System atomizer/carto NOT A COMPANY thus wasn't labeled.
You need to look up generic in the dictionary too. Generic means it has no name brand:rolleyes:
 

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I know that Joe I just hate using that word on something that is basically the same. But I only use the word generic on things that look the same and try to do the same but fails. and if you slice the unbrand and V4L regular cartos. They are the same the premiums carto's I don't know haven't finished using 1 yet to want or waste 1 and just slice it open.
 

Joe Camel

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My only point was how can you label the contest "Which kit simulates the "smoking experience" right out of the box?" then say the winner does not only have to spend time charging prior to using but spend time filling as well. Right out of the box you cannot use it. I wasn't trying to offend anyone who likes a different type.
 
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